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    Seems there's literally nothing not worth complaining about nowadays.
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    I agree with whatever the popular opinion in this thread is
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    I guarantee you that Square-Enix also has a way of determining Parsed Data for all battles fought on their Game Servers. While spouting out random nonsense numbers probably won't get you banned... spouting out the accurate DPS figures would be a very high risk proposition. Either way, good player policy is to report anyone who is spouting off numbers and alleging them to be DPS figures, on the assumption that they are in fact using third party software.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tharian View Post
    I guarantee you that Square-Enix also has a way of determining Parsed Data for all battles fought on their Game Servers. While spouting out random nonsense numbers probably won't get you banned... spouting out the accurate DPS figures would be a very high risk proposition. Either way, good player policy is to report anyone who is spouting off numbers and alleging them to be DPS figures, on the assumption that they are in fact using third party software.
    Except not a single ban was given for using it. The only warning was for a person who repeatedly belittled the dps in question, which was filed as harassment, not use of third-party software.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tharian View Post
    I guarantee you that Square-Enix also has a way of determining Parsed Data for all battles fought on their Game Servers.
    And i really hope they will give us that functionality so we can once and for all forget this nonsence.
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    lol in game GM's cant even contact you when you're in an instance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardes View Post
    lol in game GM's cant even contact you when you're in an instance.
    Um... dude. Actually they can. They just have to use the Support Desk instead of the /tell system. And if a System Administrator needed to contact you while you were in an Instance, then I am pretty sure they could bypass the "no /tell's while in an instance" black out if they really wanted to. System Administrators are just below the Developers on the hierarchy of power within the game. G.M.'s don't have the kind of power that a System Admin has.
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    Actually... not to nitpick. But there have been several hundred bans by Square-Enix for the use of Parsers and other Third Party Software. The vast majority of them however took place in Final Fantasy XI in a war between the Developers and the Players over what would become known as the "Absolute Virtue Conflict" where in the developers whose favorite monster was Absolute Virtue, would continuously modify the creature so that each time that creature was defeated by an alliance, that avenue to defeat was summarily removed from that fight by the developers.

    The end result was that the only way to effectively defeat Absolute Virtue towards the end of the conflict was by utilizing Third Party Cheats and Hacks (the least of which were Parsers). It got so bad that Square-Enix had to introduce an official nerf to the fight, but instead of doing it by weakening the boss, they instead raised the level cap of the players, thereby invalidating the need for these hacks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tharian View Post
    The end result was that the only way to effectively defeat Absolute Virtue towards the end of the conflict was by utilizing Third Party Cheats and Hacks (the least of which were Parsers). It got so bad that Square-Enix had to introduce an official nerf to the fight, but instead of doing it by weakening the boss, they instead raised the level cap of the players, thereby invalidating the need for these hacks.
    Theres a world of difference between cheats and hacks and parsers which do not modify data, just record. Whereas cheats and hacks DO modify data.

    Also you think SE raised the cap just for AV? Just lol. Think you need to study up a bit more there champ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    Theres a world of difference between cheats and hacks and parsers which do not modify data, just record. Whereas cheats and hacks DO modify data.

    Also you think SE raised the cap just for AV? Just lol. Think you need to study up a bit more there champ.
    Oh I know it wasn't "JUST" for Absolute Virtue. But Absolute Virtue was a huge reason for the level cap increase. He was impossible to beat without it at the time.

    That said, while you are absolutely correct that Parsers do not modify data, they just record it, any and all third party software that can be used to provide yourself with an advantage over other players is something that is bannable. Same goes for Glitches. Parsers can in fact provide such an advantage. Thus they are a bannable offense if you are caught using them.

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    I'd hate to be your neighbor
    Fortunately I don't have neighbors like that to my knowledge, so I have no reason to report my neighbors to the police for such a crime.
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