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    Yukihko Kuroshima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clavaat View Post
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    Nice static you are in, i wonder why you think everyone must have one?
    A MT (MainTank) with weakness definetly can no longer be MT any more, if the team at least manage to survive the Boss running havoc on the field.
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    Last edited by Yukiko; 06-20-2014 at 05:45 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Blackoutz View Post
    Naja ich hab einfach gemerkt, dass man mit Mut und Freundlichkeit viel weiter kommt und den Menschen eine Freude macht :3
    Weißt du, wenn wir alle an einem Strang hier im Forum ziehen, dann kommen wir einfach so viel weiter und stärken die gesammte Community <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    Nice static you are in, i wonder why you think everyone must have one?
    A MT (MainTank) with weakness definetly can no longer be MT any more, if the team at least manage to survive the Boss running havoc on the field.
    Because raid content is tuned for organized groups? Not the least common denominator composed of a group of random people with no coordination or familiarity.

    Uhh... Since when? This game allows for much more recovery than even the highly praised WoW (which has a # of raises your allowed to cast per event regardless of how many are available) And as a MT I really can't help but laugh at that statement. Rez effects turn "I don't need to use any cooldowns to survive" to "hrm maybe I should hit a couple to help the heals until this debuff goes away"



    If a monk or DRG doesnt step up and pop all his defensive CDs to hold the boss for the 10 seconds it takes for the smn or sch to react and raise the tank... thats a problem with the group. Hell even beat the dreaded mastermind known as Titan EX by tanking a full 10% or so as monk back in 2.1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    Nice static you are in, i wonder why you think everyone must have one?
    A MT (MainTank) with weakness definetly can no longer be MT any more, if the team at least manage to survive the Boss running havoc on the field.
    Only 1 tank even in the party he dies at 30% they still get the kill.
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    Well that's not sloppy and a lot of players underestimate the value of the healer LB 3 especially bards.

    A sloppy kill would be something you are most likely to experience in Titan HM/EX when you're left with 3-6 people and it takes an extra 4 minutes above normal to kill the primal and a healer LB3 isn't gonna revive those knocked off the platform.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post
    Titan HM/EX when you're left with 3-6 people and it takes an extra 4 minutes above normal to kill the primal and a healer LB3 isn't gonna revive those knocked off the platform.
    This is exactly the situation echo helps.... Event originally tuned for 4 dps doing 200 dmg each (total = 800 dps) well here comes echo buff now 2 dps do 400 each (total = 800 dps)

    1 tank and 1 healer have been possible since pre echo and in ilvl 90 gear. So echo also powers up these already overgeared people (who will at this point be somewhere between 90 and 100) allowing them to do the same with less than optimal play
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post
    Titan EX
    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post
    extra 4 minutes above normal
    Those 2 things don't go well with each other. Titan will enrage before you can take 4 minutes extra to normal.

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    Gee, and I thought these fights required all 8 people to execute perfectly and any death=automatic wipe, especially the tank. At least, that's what I keep reading in this thread.
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    You see that how often in DF groups?
    Sometimes in really good PF groups, but solely on statics!

    I wonder what you try to prove with a static in T8 ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackoutz View Post
    Naja ich hab einfach gemerkt, dass man mit Mut und Freundlichkeit viel weiter kommt und den Menschen eine Freude macht :3
    Weißt du, wenn wir alle an einem Strang hier im Forum ziehen, dann kommen wir einfach so viel weiter und stärken die gesammte Community <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    I wonder what you try to prove with a static in T8 ?
    I can only assume that it's to try and show how a good static with communication, such as VoIP, can help control some situations. Outside of that is just condescending superiority bs.

    Since I farmed T1 through DF to get the allagan caster ring that I never saw drop before DF was introduced. I went through many 2% wipes that could've been prevented if the bards in my group would've used the LB 3 despite kiting the Caduceus for as long as possible.
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    Last edited by Gormogon; 06-20-2014 at 08:26 AM.

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    I'll raise you
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjndBZfM8Bs

    turn 9, solo tank, tank dies to claw at 10:15, boss proceed to ravage everyone, a few dps dies in the process, there were also a couple of people getting hit by dynamo, all in all a pretty sloppy run but they never give up, in the end they were 2 secs before enrage and managed to clear it.
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    Last edited by Dano; 06-20-2014 at 10:47 AM.

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