Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[Butcherboy]

Question here, I know drg dint need any buff, but I was quite curious as what buff we're supposed to b getting along with other DDs when the blm buff start rolling. I heated that was cancelled

[Merlot]

I could list my exact setup (which works well for me) but it would be a wall of text.

The general idea I try to use is keep attack abilities (Heavy thrust, Impulse, Disembowel, the "thrust" attacks, etc) on the face buttons (square, triangle, X, circle) so that you can move + attack at the same time. All of my off-GCD abilites (lone exception is jump on triangle) are on the directional buttons, which makes it easy to tap and weave into the normal combos.

In fact.. I have a live stream from the other week I was doing for our FC so they could watch us fail at t6.. Link here: http://www.twitch.tv/whiskey1bravo/b/535172855

I start out as Paladin - fast-forward to about 1:44:00 and you can see my basic set up on Dragoon

I was looking for a ps4 controller-dragoon related post and this makes me happy cheers n beers to you!

[MeowzBoss]

Hey guys, long time lurker, first time poster.

I'm having trouble hitting some numbers that I hear other dragoons hitting at this ilvl. I'm ranging around 395-405 at i101 (here's my current gear set up: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/MVBE)
I'm using the rotation from this guide as well, here's what it looks like from my perspective: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kJX...ature=youtu.be
And here's the best parse I've gotten with a ton of crits: http://imgur.com/Wkd1GYM

If anyone has any advice, is it possible to reply to the video or PM here, up to you. I'd appreciate it big time... I feel as if Im doing what Im told but I'm not getting the same results as everyone else.

Thanks.

[SokiYagami]

Pretty sure this have been asked before, but after the first opening rotation, is it better to pop IR and LS (with FT) as soon as it's up? Or would it be better to hold them back for B4B? And while I'm at this, do you guys reset the rotation of CT > FT (popping CDs and jumps in between) or do you carry on whatever you are doing and pop CDs along the way? Say, you just finish CT > FT set, and all the CDs are up, would you do FT > CT or reset CT > FT while popping CDs?

[TheKingSlayer]

Pretty sure this have been asked before, but after the first opening rotation, is it better to pop IR and LS (with FT) as soon as it's up? Or would it be better to hold them back for B4B? And while I'm at this, do you guys reset the rotation of CT > FT (popping CDs and jumps in between) or do you carry on whatever you are doing and pop CDs along the way? Say, you just finish CT > FT set, and all the CDs are up, would you do FT > CT or reset CT > FT while popping CDs?

Don't pop IR with Life Surge, LS already guarantees a critical hit so no need to increase the crit rate with IR. The cooldown for LS is shorter (60secs) than B4B (80secs), so if you always wait to use LS with B4B you'll potentially have LS waiting for 20 secs before b4b is back up. I use all cool downs as available. If all buffs are up, all dots are ticking, and no cooldowns are available, always go with the FT combo.

[SokiYagami]

Sorry for making it sound confusing, what I meant was, should I pop IR and LS (separately) as soon as it's up, or should I hold them back for B4B? I wonder if someone did the maths on this before?

[pompey_dan]

Sorry for making it sound confusing, what I meant was, should I pop IR and LS (separately) as soon as it's up, or should I hold them back for B4B? I wonder if someone did the maths on this before?

For life surge I think it depends how long is left on BFB cooldown, if there is like <9s on B4B you should hold life surge so that the crit benefits from the +30% of B4B.

Saving life surge for every B4B is not alot worse than using it on cooldown. Ignoring DE and HT buffs, over a 320 second period using life surge on FT assuming FT is always ready as soon as it comes off colldown, then using LS on cooldown vs with BFB is like 3217.5 potency vs 3267. So not alot of difference. However life surge will not always be used as soon as it is up like BFB can because you will need to wait for FT. So basically need to just use best judgement on when to use it.

[Lucael_Shikaree]

I strongly suggest to every new Dragoon of the community to check the opening post and the first pages of the thread. You can have a lot of insight and useful information. Plus there's some terrific work that some members put in there and is worth to be checked. Like this one about CD priority, the first pages cover this as well.
Anyway what's happening to the Dragoon community in this forum? It used to shine in the old days and now we have people discussing about Chaos Thrust be useful or asking mindless buff on the job. :\

[Erudain]

Silly question but I never really tried to do it lol...

Can you fall from Titan platform doing an elusive jump?

[SokiYagami]

I've been a long time DRG and has visited this page quite a number of times before. Got the main stuff down, just working on polishing the small stuff and tailoring my rotation to every fight :x
But then again... the saving IR to pop it with B4B always seems like a grey area to me, I know I will miss out 1 IR for every 4 pops if I hold it back for B4B, but those critical during B4B just seems really awesome... Kinda end up holding them in the end, which seems to be a bad idea :/

And yeah, the complaint on chaos thrust really made me lol'ed a little XD

Yes Erudain, you can. At least about a month ago I backflip'ed off the cliff before. Miss it by a couple pixels lol >_<