Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[rickyguo]

Dude i always see you in here posting about drg being low dps and that one finally made me post. You need to learn how to play drg if the blm buff made them do more than you. Maybe ill link my stream next time i do coil so you can see how much dps a real drg can do. Ive seen you say before monk plus bard is better then drg plus bard, maybe you just need a good drg to show you thats not true, now im sure this is going cause you to throw a fit and cause a huge discussion but im tired of everyone downing drgs. I crush the dps on drg and ill be damned if a blm ever beats me, drg is the better melee of the 2 for ever turn as well xcept t8. Now learn to maximize and compete before you come inhere with the blm does more than drg single target, the way you should have said that is blm does more damage than YOU single target.

MNK is 8% more damage than DRG on average, and bard buff with disembowel is 7% since it doesn't affect dots. Therefore, MNK+BRD>DRG+BRD. DRGs only do more when there's 2 bards in the raid. I mean, BLMs who know what they're doing can do 430-440 on T8 pre patch, which gave them a 10% damage buff. This would lead them to around 470-48x. Forgive me for not being a real DRG but the most I can do in t8 is probably 460, and that's if I don't do any mechanics or LB.

Maybe you just play with awful MNKs and BLMs.

Also, not once have I said that DRGs are not viable or that I want any buff besides a cut in elusive jump cd. You're just uninformed about numbers or something if you think that DRGs can pull similar dps as MNKs, or DRGs are better than MNKs at t6, t7, and t9. Assuming the same mechanics, at best it'd probably be a wash.

[Bushido_Brown]

MNK is 8% more damage than DRG on average, and bard buff with disembowel is 7% since it doesn't affect dots. Therefore, MNK+BRD>DRG+BRD. DRGs only do more when there's 2 bards in the raid. I mean, BLMs who know what they're doing can do 430-440 on T8 pre patch, which gave them a 10% damage buff. This would lead them to around 470-48x. Forgive me for not being a real DRG but the most I can do in t8 is probably 460, and that's if I don't do any mechanics or LB.

Maybe you just play with awful MNKs and BLMs.

Seriously, though, just play a different job if you have such an issue.

[rickyguo]

Seriously, though, just play a different job if you have such an issue.

"not once have I said that DRGs are not viable or that I want any buff besides a cut in elusive jump cd."

I'm just putting out numbers that are correct to the best of my knowledge, wheres the actual hate?

Whatever I'm done posting in this thread.

[Hakmatic]

"not once have I said that DRGs are not viable or that I want any buff besides a cut in elusive jump cd."

I'm just putting out numbers that are correct to the best of my knowledge, wheres the actual hate?

Whatever I'm done posting in this thread.

Im not mis informed, my numbers dont lie.

[PArcher]

Got my Guardian's Body of Maiming. It looks soooo bad...but the stats are soooo good

[JetBrooks]

Got my Guardian's Body of Maiming. It looks soooo bad...but the stats are soooo good

Same ^^ Myth chest glamour forever!

[PArcher]

Also, that Ramuh Ring is definitely something we need as DRG. 17Crit/9DET in exchange for 13SS and 2 STR (the High Allagan). Sure, use the HA ring when you need it (Turn 8/9) but everywhere else...

[whiskeybravo]

Almost got the weather Liberator last night ;;

Settled for weathered Burtgang for my Pally, since I could never get the damn t5 sword. I don't have enough good accuracy gear to use Lib in coil, and I'm 3 books away from GB Animus so I figured I'd upgrade from the Curtana Zenith. So now I have a nice PLD, Str spec War, and a bossy MNK, DRG and SMN.

Come at me bro! xD

DRG is still my first <3. So don't worry!

[Andyman]

********** PVP POST **********

On the subject of Dragoon's and Frontlines, I've come up with a pvp gearset which is heavily focused on det + crit.

Since any item ilvl80 or above doesn't matter because it gets scaled down and accuracy doesn't matter in frontlines this is a set will give us the most det + crit.

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/N2TZ

Since the pvp ability Impulse Rush waves directional requirements, is it worth using a chaos thrust combo or just use it for heavy thrust and stick to phleb + thrust combo?

General Tips:

Save spineshatter & dragonfire dive as gap closer's.
When facing another physical dps, popping keen flurry and bloodbath really helps.
Elusive jump removes status effects like heavy
PVP skill weapon throw is amazing, max rank this and use it to stop fleeing players.
If a player is running away from you, don't be afraid to pop sprint. Using invigorate or enliven will mean you restore your tp and can attack on the move.

If anyone has some other good pvp tips, please do share.

[Hakmatic]

T6 430, t7 varies on shrieks and voices highest achieved 412, t8 440-460 with mechanics, t9 highest clear dps 390 all of this is at item lvl 104 im 106 now maybe ill see better numbers.