NINJA and ROGUE confirmed

[Roris]

This game sure needed another speed based two handed melee, but hey at least they do have Flee, oh wait I mean "reduced fall damage". I'm glad for people who actually looked forward to it though, after all I picked Pugilist in 1.0 because it was the closest to Rogue classes in other non MMO games and I love two handed knives characters and also Monks in most Final Fantasies, though now years later after seeing how Rogue classes actually play in most WoW clone MMOs such as this one, I'm glad I didn't wait.

[BooskiBoo]

Wow doodz! New DPS class atlast! Any mention of new tank classes to compensate? Because more DPS in an overcrowded DPS world... Not gonna be much fun with the tank shortage situation.

[Abraxis]

Wow doodz! New DPS class atlast! Any mention of new tank classes to compensate? Because more DPS in an overcrowded DPS world... Not gonna be much fun with the tank shortage situation.

New tank will be in the expansion after 2.4. Won't effect the queue times much even if they added a tank class, actually it would make it worse for anyone above level 40. So no, adding a new tank wouldn't matter now, or later.

[LoLo]

This is what I was saying above. They were very specific about Rogues not being thieves. Yes, they were very clear that rogues originated as thieves, but they also went to great lengths and said several times that they are not thieves.

When they said this so specifically any arguments like "if it plays like a thief it must be a thief" is just plain wrong. They said, very very specifically that rogues were not thieves.

A person in here to wants people to pretend they are a Thief even though the game tell everyone that it isn't a Thief but a Ninja. Sounds like mental gymnastics.

[Tiggy]

The person you replied to wants people to pretend they are a Thief even thought the game tell everyone that it isn't a Thief but a Ninja. Sounds like mental gymnastics.

It is mental gymnastics and it's ridiculous. I don't know how anyone can try to act like they are a thief at all. Yoshi couldn't have been clearer when he said they were not a thief.

[Nero]

The person you replied to wants people to pretend they are a Thief even though the game tell everyone that it isn't a Thief but a Ninja. Sounds like mental gymnastics.

That reply was directed at me and no, i don't. No clue where you get that from?! Or did you mean the first Reply towards Reynhart?

[LoLo]

That reply was directed at me and no, i don't. No clue where you get that from?! Or did you mean the first Reply towards Reynhart?

I was not meaning to direct that at you. I was just replying to Tiggy about another poster who actually said to pretend that you are a Thief because Ninja plays like Thief so just pretend to be a Thief and be happy.
Quoted below:

So let's say SE didn't name it "rogue"....and they named it Thief

If it feels like a thief, plays like a thief, has the traditional skills of a thief, then is a thief even if they name it burglar or robber...what's the difference? the name?
Then you care more for the name than the playstyle? They could throw you a thief healer and would be happy because is a "thief"?

When it gets to 30 and becomes a NIN..it will still have the thief playstyle...PLD still plays like GLD, DGN still plays like LCN, WHM still plays like CNJ....but then again the problem is the name? feels like a thief, plays like a thief, has thief traditional skills....but is named NIN and has 5 new skills?

After reading that I blocked their posts because I find them to just be a troll and the person that posted twice right after them is blocked as well because he was obsessed with replying to everything I post on the forums. I guess he loves talking to a wall because I can't see anything he saids lol.

(I edited the post to reflect that)

[Omegakiyohime]

So I'll avoid the Thf/Rog/Nin debate and state something that I've been theory crafting for a bit.

What if the Doman's aren't the ones that teach us Ninjutsu? Bear with me for a second.


It's a bit weak, but if you've watched the last live letter, you probably saw that there were Ninja enemies in CT.
It may just be SE throwing them in to tease us, but lore wise, it could mean that the Ancient Allagan had some knowledge of Ninjutsu that they either learned from the Doman ancestors or that they taught to the early Doman (or a sect went and founded Doma). Since the CT excavation is part of the living world and has few conflicts with the extended main story, I'm thinking that they may go the smn route with the ninja job quest/stone. Instead of requiring players to be up to date on the extended main story quests in which Domans are introduced, they will have someone teach the art based on the excavation of the job stone/ancient scrolls from CT and the ancient Allag. Thoughts?

This also had my mind racing a bit about the connection between the Allag and the Domans.

[Arkista]

Snip.

Oh good I wasn't the only one who saw that Ninja.

[Omegakiyohime]

Oh good I wasn't the only one who saw that Ninja.

Yeah, so apparently those guys are common enemies in the Crystal Tower from III, but I still think they are going to make a connection between Ancient Allag and Ninjas.