NINJA and ROGUE confirmed

[Bigpurpleharness]

Indeed, we're back...because nothing that people asked is denied to them except for the name.

In fact, that's strange...people complain because they want iconic Thief skills although we don't even know what skills the Rogue will have

Oh, cool, I stand corrected then. I didn't realize we would be able to play it at 50 without hindering ourselves with lower stats. I didn't know it had the iconic thief abilities. I didn't realize it was going to have quests all the way 50.

All this discussion reminds me a South Park chapter...

Cartman's mon: ohh look Toshiba handibook, same hardware and does everything the Ipad does, but half the price...
Cartman: yes, but it's not an Ipad...

So I guess Rogue could be a thief clone, have all it's traditional skills/traits, be played like a thief always was played....then you get a soulstone for ninja (like you know, ninja being an advanced class for thief in lots of FF games), still has all the thief traditional skills/traits, still hold the same thief playstyle....but is not called "thief"....the horror....

If it moves like a duck, acts like a duck, quacks like a duck....then is a duck even if I dress it up like a cat...

You two seriously must just be trying to argue. There is no way anyone can say a class that's going to have to use ninjutsu is going to play as a thief. It's not as simple as, "Just glamour your ninja". Hell, why do we need Ninja if we're doing that? Monks can increase your movement speed just make it look like a ninja. Dragoons can jump, just do that.

[Reynhart]

I didn't realize we would be able to play it at 50 without hindering ourselves with lower stats.

A DPS soulcrystal that will hinder stats on a DPS class ?! You fear to be cripled with less Mind ?

I didn't know it had the iconic thief abilities.

In fact yes, neither of us do know exactly, except that Yoshi said "It's like a Thief"

I didn't realize it was going to have quests all the way 50.

You're right, jobs have waaaayyyyy more lore quests than class...well, only one more, actually

There is no way anyone can say a class that's going to have to use ninjutsu is going to play as a thief.

There is a no way a job that uses 75% of the equivalent of Thief can play as a Thief ?

Like there's no way a Bard can play as an Archer because he has 3 songs ?