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    Skull_Angel's Avatar
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    Leon Solitario
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    I'd say anything vanity is fine; if it doesn't effect gameplay mechanics it's not creating a P2W instance (which is already happening with extra retainers). Server swaps can be iffy, but are acceptable to me; the only time I'm against server swaps is when people use them to "scam and dash", but they're throwing away money to do it so meh.

    I don't quite understand why people are against vanity items being in a cash shop though; you don't need them, they don't give any advantage, don't buy them if you don't care for them. No one has brought up a good argument against vanity items being in a cash shop either and the best argument I've heard is "they're annoying".
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    OMEGAlomania's Avatar
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    Lana Cross
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    Balmung
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    Bard Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Skull_Angel View Post
    I'd say anything vanity is fine; if it doesn't effect gameplay mechanics it's not creating a P2W instance (which is already happening with extra retainers). Server swaps can be iffy, but are acceptable to me; the only time I'm against server swaps is when people use them to "scam and dash", but they're throwing away money to do it so meh.

    I don't quite understand why people are against vanity items being in a cash shop though; you don't need them, they don't give any advantage, don't buy them if you don't care for them. No one has brought up a good argument against vanity items being in a cash shop either and the best argument I've heard is "they're annoying".
    Because vanity in this game is content, and any and all content outside of an expansion should be included in my sub fee.

    I'll also note that i'm yet to see a good argument why they SHOULD be in the game. If you're so desperate to give them more money take out a second sub, or buy another collectors edition.
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    Last edited by OMEGAlomania; 05-31-2014 at 12:48 AM.

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    Nalia Danger
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skull_Angel View Post
    I don't quite understand why people are against vanity items being in a cash shop though; you don't need them, they don't give any advantage, don't buy them if you don't care for them. No one has brought up a good argument against vanity items being in a cash shop either and the best argument I've heard is "they're annoying".
    Right now, the main market that crafters have is people who are looking for cool vanity items. If these vanity items are offered in a cash shop, then that reduces incentive to craft, destroys the in-game market for crafted goods (no demand), and generally reduces the usefulness of crafting in general. Except for food. Those Culinarians are always in need.
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    Bloodclaw's Avatar
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    Bloodclaw Talon
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    Quote Originally Posted by NaliaBrown View Post
    Right now, the main market that crafters have is people who are looking for cool vanity items. If these vanity items are offered in a cash shop, then that reduces incentive to craft, destroys the in-game market for crafted goods (no demand), and generally reduces the usefulness of crafting in general. Except for food. Those Culinarians are always in need.
    Yep. I had the same thought.
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    Gramul's Avatar
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    Eisen Gramul
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    Hyperion
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    Blacksmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Skull_Angel View Post
    I don't quite understand why people are against vanity items being in a cash shop though; you don't need them, they don't give any advantage, don't buy them if you don't care for them. No one has brought up a good argument against vanity items being in a cash shop either and the best argument I've heard is "they're annoying".
    Think about it like this: We pay a monthly fee to play this game, all features involved. Adding a vanity shop divorces some of the content that could be in game so people might shell out more for it.
    You're effectively paying more for content that should be obtainable in the game you're already paying for.
    Quote Originally Posted by Amberion View Post
    Yeah, I know they are coming. I'm just disappointed with them about it. Before they add those items, those are the only 2 things that are permanent. And to me, an MMORPG really needs some permanent choices. It brings one closer to their character.
    And while that's fine for you, many people would appreciate not being stuck to one form. Allowing them to change shouldn't hurt how you appreciate the game on your own. I don't believe in permanent choices for a character you're presumably going to be using for years, but I do encourage moderately long lasting punishment for breaking major in game decisions. Also, it would be good for personal 'emergencies', like if later on you realize you made a mistake in designing your avatar, have a typo in your name or realize it turns out to be an innuendo and you start attracting a certain crowd that teach you something about yourself you weren't entirely aware of, and you end up taking a year off of school to deal with the drastic esoteric questions surrounding your secret major life change.
    Now, I personally would never change my character as he's basically become iconic for better or worse.
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    Last edited by Gramul; 05-31-2014 at 12:57 AM.

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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Skull_Angel View Post
    I don't quite understand why people are against vanity items being in a cash shop though; you don't need them, they don't give any advantage, don't buy them if you don't care for them. No one has brought up a good argument against vanity items being in a cash shop either and the best argument I've heard is "they're annoying".
    because vanity items already come from ingame recipes, achievement rewards, event rewads and dungeon drop. No need to create a cash shop for it
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    Last edited by Felis; 05-31-2014 at 08:10 AM.