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    Shae'ah Solaris
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    Quote Originally Posted by Llyren View Post
    Tanks fault, Tank panic'd. Healer should of let DPS die, but not their fault, they where healing. DPS is often dumb, but there is why there are both Tanks and vote kicks...
    But it's not though is it? cause that wouldn't have happened had the dps not attacked the wrong target - and "Healer should HAVE let the DPS die"?? No, why should the healer let anyone die, their role is to heal! Even through unforseen circumstances. The tank could have been perfectly playing his role up to this point.

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    Aria Placida
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeora View Post
    and "Healer should HAVE let the DPS die"?? No, why should the healer let anyone die, their role is to heal!
    Totally did this the other day during Titan for my SCH relic. Sorry, but I'm not gonna heal the BRD who's pointing Titan at the raid.
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    /\ My kind of Scholar. XD
    Seriously though, everyone does like to blame the tank. The best advice I can give though is to communicate, I've found that people are usually pretty cool once they're made aware that you do indeed know what you're doing and aren't some random troll/little kid/illiterate monkey, or whatever those kinds of people are envisioning when they jump down your digital throat so readily, and if that doesn't work, and the person is really berating you just start a vote to kick, I'm sure the rest of the party will probably thank you for it in the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bornruffian1 View Post
    The best advice I can give though is to communicate, I've found that people are usually pretty cool once they're made aware that you do indeed know what you're doing and aren't some random troll/little kid/illiterate monkey, or whatever those kinds of people are envisioning when they jump down your digital throat so readily. . .
    Yeah, I had a story Brayflox run back when I was leveling SMN where the tank was rather bad. I kept ripping hate with Bane, and the healer was with his cures. When the healer was like, "Don't blame me if you die because I can't keep up with heals," I responded with, "Nah, I'd blame the tank, because neither of us is doing enough that we should be getting aggro." After that, we just worked together to keep things flowing more or less smoothly and eventually cleared the dungeon. One heck of an Aiatar fight, though. @_@
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    Don't worry, you are fine. Just walk away
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    Totally did this the other day during Titan for my SCH relic. Sorry, but I'm not gonna heal the BRD who's pointing Titan at the raid.
    Ha, I agree! When I SCH Titan for my FC, I let them know they get one raise, and that if dps really want to tank Titan (really, any fight), they won't get healed. I can heal through stupid, but will not heal through excessive stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeora View Post
    But it's not though is it? cause that wouldn't have happened had the dps not attacked the wrong target - and "Healer should HAVE let the DPS die"?? No, why should the healer let anyone die, their role is to heal! Even through unforseen circumstances. The tank could have been perfectly playing his role up to this point.

    Your opinion is wrong.
    The Tank that panics is not playing their role perfectly at that point.

    A DPS who panics is often quite recoverable with minimal character deaths. When a Tank or Healer panics, well ... hope you have a spare.

    Extra mobs from another area can be solved by letting the character that pulled them die. Those mobs will then run back to their spawn point if no other character has generated aggro on the mobs. This situation can also be solved by a Tank picking the mobs up.

    If you merely mean the wrong target in the Tanks last pull, that is something Tanks deal with in most dungeon groups, to the point that they often try and arrange there being no wrong target*.

    We can control how we play: silent, loud, elite, elitist, casual, grindy, afk**. Trying to control how another plays is not only frustrating, but leads to elitist scumbaggery.


    *Flash or Overpower spam anyone? You know you're hitting it more often they you really need to
    ** Myself I mainly play afkish
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