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    Player LeonBlade's Avatar
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    Yuki Shiku
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Cap75 View Post
    The whole purpose is not to "help" new players. The purpose of Roulette was to reduce queue times. That's it. That's all SE said. Please show me a quote that says the purpose is to help new players. SE has already said it's okay to kick someone for not playing at the pace the rest of the party wants to. I wouldn't do that personally, but this whole idea that you're there to hand hold new players through dungeons has gotten out of hand.
    Please explain to me why you would ever need to run either CM or Praetorium after you've cleared it for your first time, especially now as an i90 character. There's no loot, it takes way too long to clear it, and it's not even challenging.

    So, please... tell me, why is the Main Scenario Roulette a thing in the game if it offers no benefits to players who have already cleared it for their story?

    Quote Originally Posted by Felessan View Post
    It should be the same for all people, no?
    Don't like being left behind - get yourself premade party that will wait for you.
    The job as it is now is to help finish dungeon, not cater to every whim of newbie player.
    But why are you bothering to do it to begin with if you don't care about people who want to watch the cutscenes? You are WASTING YOUR TIME doing the Main Scenario Roulette no matter how you look at it.

    It's not forcing someone to wait because they don't HAVE to do the roulette. Like I've already said a bunch of times, you could easily spend the 30+ minutes it takes to do these dungeons doing speed runs of Brayflox and have WAY more than 80 tomes.

    How difficult is this to understand? Just do your Expert, High Level, and Trial roulettes if you don't want new players... At least in those instances if there are new players, the cutscenes are so small it's not a problem.

    Why complain about waiting in a the story instance for new players when you're already wasting 30 minutes of your time to begin with?

    Quote Originally Posted by Artemiz View Post
    I have no idea where you're getting your generalisations from, I've never once bitched at someone for watching a CS nor do I give new players a hard time.
    I never accused you of any of this, I'm just saying this is in the same line of logic of the people that want new players to skip cutscenes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Artemiz View Post
    You might be interested to know that this morning on my ilvl 90 SCH I walked 2 fresh tanks through CM, I told them what to do for each boss, where to tank it and how to deal with adds, I talked them through the cannons and sac pulling as well. They seemed very grateful but you seem to suggest I shouldn't use the roulette, strange. If SE wants people like me to do that then an incentive would be a good idea don't you think?
    I'm glad to hear that you helped new players. I'm not saying you can't speed run the trash enemies, but don't tell people they need to skip cutscenes if they don't want to. Most of the time, players will skip the cutscenes anyways as guides wrongly tell them they have to in order to complete the dungeon in time, which is bull shit, but regardless...

    If a new player wants to skip the cutscenes and watch them later, that's completely fine with me, if someone politely asks if the new player could watch them later to speed up the dungeon and they are okay with it, that's also completely fine. I'm talking about the people who will kick new players for watching cutscenes, or demand players to skip cutscenes because they don't want to sit around and wait because "muh precious 80 myth tomes" are so important over someone wanting to enjoy the game for the first time.

    I'm not on some "high horse" as you describe it... My comments are directed towards the players that give grief to new players, not to people like you. I'm a very humble person, I don't mean you or anyone any real disrespect, I understand that you don't want to sit around and wait for cutscenes every single run just to help some players out, but at the same time, I feel it's important to respect these players as well. When the general consensus from the end game community is "fuck you I want tomes", I think you can understand where I'm coming from.
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    Last edited by LeonBlade; 05-20-2014 at 08:38 PM. Reason: Character limit.