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    Iam Groot
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    It's not a speed run, its outdated content. That dungeon could literally be dragged out for 1.5 hours easily.

    Skipping cutscenes does not = speed run

    Geared 50s run it for the myth bonus, get over it. You would not have ANYONE running these dungeons if they did not give a myth bonus.

    We are doing YOU a favor.

    Stop acting like there are 100s of players just waiting to get in these dungeons and run them the "right way".
    There are like 5 people, and they are all here on this forum complaining. Go make your own party of 5 and see how far you get.
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    Last edited by MythToken; 05-20-2014 at 02:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MythToken View Post
    It's not a speed run, its outdated content. That dungeon could literally be dragged out for 1.5 hours easily.

    Skipping cutscenes does not = speed run

    Geared 50s run it for the myth bonus, get over it. You would not have ANYONE running these dungeons if they did not give a myth bonus.

    We are doing YOU a favor.

    Stop acting like there are 100s of players just waiting to get in these dungeons and run them the "right way".
    There are like 5 people, and they are all here on this forum complaining. Go make your own party of 5 and see how far you get.
    Out of 2 million, only 5 que for prea? oh wow... glad no new players exist in this game
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    Player LeonBlade's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MythToken View Post
    We are doing YOU a favor.
    Yeah, you are doing them a favor and being rewarded for it... 30 minutes of your time could be spent getting 80+ myth tomes in other ways. If you're going to bitch about someone watching cutscenes then go speed run Brayflox for your 80 tomes. In the 30 minutes it takes you to clear the Story Roulette you would have got 225 myth tomes or so depending on your time.

    Story Roulette is to help the new players, you are at their mercy. If you don't want to deal with new players... don't join the roulette... simple as that.

    This isn't a hard solution, it's just a bunch of people who bitch that new people in the game exist and they want to watch cutscenes and enjoy the game as it was meant to be played. There have always been faster methods for getting tomes from the Story Roulette ever since it was added.

    I always join the roulette under the assumption that someone might want to watch cutscenes. This is the same thing for all the tanks and healers that don't want to stick around for their 5000th run of Toto-Rak. Don't fucking join the roulette then. The amount of time it would take you to clear one of those dungeons could easily be spent speed running Brayflox for way more tomes than you'd get for a bonus.

    If you're someone who leaves a duty because you get a dungeon you don't want in roulette or wants people to skip cutscenes, you should be banned from using the roulette.
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    Last edited by LeonBlade; 05-20-2014 at 01:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeonBlade View Post
    Story Roulette is to help the new players, you are at their mercy. If you don't want to deal with new players... don't join the roulette... simple as that.
    The problem is if everyone took this advice then there wouldn't be many people helping new players clear this content. The queues would then take forever and newer players would be put off by that instead.

    You have to take into account the needs of the roulette player as well as the new player if you want a solution to this problem, demanding the player base becomes more philanthropic simply wont work, that's life.
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    Player LeonBlade's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Artemiz View Post
    The problem is if everyone took this advice then there wouldn't be many people helping new players clear this content. The queues would then take forever and newer players would be put off by that instead.

    You have to take into account the needs of the roulette player as well as the new player if you want a solution to this problem, demanding the player base becomes more philanthropic simply wont work, that's life.
    You would be surprised how many people wouldn't mind.

    There is no needs for the roulette player, their whole purpose is to help the new player. Like I said, if you want 80 tomes, then go get it someway else, you're already wasting your time simply by doing the Story Roulette to begin with if time is so important to you in the time it takes to clear this dungeon.

    "You need to skip the cutscenes because I don't want to watch them, and if you don't listen to me, then I'm going to leave."

    You want to hold these new players hostage for your own means, it's disgusting.

    The roulette player doesn't need to be catered to, that's just how it goes. Don't like it, don't join that roulette, plain and simple. Like I said, while they're at it, don't join a low level roulette only to leave because you get a dungeon you don't want. Either way, your time isn't optimized, you're not only wasting the time of the low level players that are doing this to level up or for their first times, but your own in queueing over and over until you get something you're satisfied with along with the completion time of that dungeon.
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    Last edited by LeonBlade; 05-20-2014 at 07:42 PM. Reason: Character limit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeonBlade View Post
    The roulette player doesn't need to be catered to, that's just how it goes. Don't like it, don't join that roulette, plain and simple.
    It should be the same for all people, no?
    Bitching about watching CS is bad. But now most parties I get into just say "take your time" and run forward, leaving new ppl behind. And forcing people to stand and wait is the same level of bad as forcing ppl skip CS. Don't like being left behind - get yourself premade party that will wait for you.

    And honestly, this 80 mytho is my reward for assisting. The job as it is now is to help finish dungeon, not cater to every whim of newbie player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeonBlade View Post
    You would be surprised how many people wouldn't mind.

    There is no needs for the roulette player, their whole purpose is to help the new player. Like I said, if you want 80 tomes, then go get it someway else, you're already wasting your time simply by doing the Story Roulette to begin with if time is so important to you in the time it takes to clear this dungeon.

    "You need to skip the cutscenes because I don't want to watch them, and if you don't listen to me, then I'm going to leave."

    You want to hold these new players hostage for your own means, it's disgusting.

    The roulette player doesn't need to be catered to, that's just how it goes. Don't like it, don't join that roulette, plain and simple. Like I said, while they're at it, don't join a low level roulette only to leave because you get a dungeon you don't want. Either way, your time isn't optimized, you're not only wasting the time of the low level players that are doing this to level up or for their first times, but your own in queueing over and over until you get something you're satisfied with along with the completion time of that dungeon.
    I have no idea where you're getting your generalisations from, I've never once bitched at someone for watching a CS nor do I give new players a hard time. You might be interested to know that this morning on my ilvl 90 SCH I walked 2 fresh tanks through CM, I told them what to do for each boss, where to tank it and how to deal with adds, I talked them through the cannons and sac pulling as well. They seemed very grateful but you seem to suggest I shouldn't use the roulette, strange. If SE wants people like me to do that then an incentive would be a good idea don't you think?

    Not all higher level players are assholes, if you could stop generalising for 5 minutes and get off your high horse you might actually see it.
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    Last edited by Artemiz; 05-20-2014 at 08:26 PM.

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    It's just funny that in the 30 minutes people spend speed running this they could have easily gotten 250 myth from bray speed runs. But hey, I think overall you rather have speed runners than no people at all. The tone would change quickly when you're waiting in duty finder for 3+ hours because nobody wants to do the dungeon anymore.
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    If we could give you back your hour long queue times we would.


    Yes take the number 5 as literal, that's really smart.

    I would say less than 1% of the entire game population actually cares about this non-issue.
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    Last edited by MythToken; 05-20-2014 at 03:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MythToken View Post
    If we could give you back your hour long queue times we would.


    Yes take the number 5 as literal, that's really smart.

    I would say less than 1% of the entire game population actually cares about this non-issue.
    Sarcasm bud
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