Best Gear in Coil needs to end

[Menriq]

Well with that narrow minded way of thinking you'll never understand. Just don't bother this isn't your forte.

Actually, I think I am being very open minded. While I might not agree with you, I'm trying to understand where you are coming from. I have not insulted you or talked down to you to my knowledge, and if you read through my posts on this thread, I'm not a fan of the elitist attitude towards those who haven't cleared either. What I have been saying, and you haven't answered from what I've read, is that what you are arguing is different than what this topic was originally about. What you seem to be arguing is how to get the best gear, not that the best gear comes from SCoB. If you want to argue the one shot mechanics are too unforgiving, or that you feel the gear itemization before getting the SCoB gear is not the best, than I would be happy to entertain that discussion in a thread dedicated to that.

[Gormogon]

Actually, I think I am being very open minded.

Really? All that you have in bold is way off from what I've said.

[Esmian]

lol do you get along with anyone at all or no? I'm shooting for no.

[Menriq]

Really? All that you have in bold is way off from what I've said.

I think we'll just have to agree to disagree. I respect your opinion, even if I don't agree with it.

[SDaemon]

You could have your iLvl100 gear with poison resist, and still get 1 shot by blight.

Well with that narrow minded way of thinking you'll never understand. Just don't bother this isn't your forte.

Um...what? O.O

[OmniEx]

It just amazes me that when just about every single person in this thread is disagreeing with Gormogon, he still insists he's right and knows what is for the best interest of everyone.

Pretty classic.

I think he's just trying to be annoying at this point tbh

[SarcasmMisser]

No, when Ramuh is released...

This is legitimately a good point, an effect of the ilevel difference means that ilevel at least for now is an indicator of player skill, and you could set a pf group with a certain ilevel and reliably only get decent players. Of course not to say that skilled people won't be excluded but it's aside the point because clear only groups in pf try to be exclusive anyway. People won't have to try and scare people in pf messages because there's a effective way to find the people they want, they have useful tools.

Of course I doubt this would remain the case for 2.3 as this is a vertical progression game which everyone forgets when they moan like they are going to be i100 forever. It's just natural that raiders get better gear options first, and more options come later

[Ooshima]

I think he's just trying to be annoying at this point tbh

Quite entertaining tbh. The reason why I'm visiting this thread now is to see what Gormogon says. The actual discussion have probably ended with all points said. But Gormogon is pure entertainment.

[juniglee]

Quite entertaining tbh. The reason why I'm visiting this thread now is to see what Gormogon says. The actual discussion have probably ended with all points said. But Gormogon is pure entertainment.

Gormogon for president.

[Giantbane]

This is legitimately a good point, an effect of the ilevel difference means that ilevel at least for now is an indicator of player skill, and you could set a pf group with a certain ilevel and reliably only get decent players. Of course not to say that skilled people won't be excluded but it's aside the point because clear only groups in pf try to be exclusive anyway. People won't have to try and scare people in pf messages because there's a effective way to find the people they want, they have useful tools.

See, it's very tempting. So easy to separate the people who are skilled from those who might be skilled.

It will be disappointing if too many of the groups at the beginning of 2.3 (arguably the best time to run it while everyone's learning) start to adopt this practice

It's just natural that raiders get better gear options first, and more options come later

Raiders pay the same monthly fees, no? And this isn't entitlement?