Turn 5 seems too difficult

[Chiramu]

Things that will make T5 easier, the Echo doesn't do anything. Give the Twintania an audio cue or verbal cue when she casts it and for Divebombs, give it an aoe marker.

[kukurumei]

Things that will make T5 easier, the Echo doesn't do anything. Give the Twintania an audio cue or verbal cue when she casts it and for Divebombs, give it an aoe marker.

I'm sure they're there, just hidden. A huge part of coil and extremes are the lack of aoe markers, so only really practice people can "instinctively" see them.

No one would need the ditch if you saw the aoe markers for dive bombs, or lines for twisters.

[TeganLaron]

The only thing about Turn 5 that's hard is that it requires good group co-ordination.

Ironically if people had learned to do Turn 2 the proper way with Allagan rot, instead of the lazy way, then they'd be better prepared for this kind of thing.

[Nabian]

Cool, but for the majority of players it takes weeks, especially if you have a weak link or two.

Here is my problem with 90% of the people who say "the fight is easy but...the other people are messing up". It's really quite simple. If you have people in your group who are brain dead..or can't get the mechanic down. Then it's time to say "well...it was fun but your worthless so go somewhere else." then replace them and move on.

[abzoluut]

Why do people always forget that making the right group is an MMO skill too. You failed before the pull.

This is todays community: check PF, if T5 (in this example) click join, if no T5: close PF, look again later. I'm glad T5 punishes those people.

[Kikosho]

Conflags - Go ham on every other one. You have a 15% damage increase and they had their HP nerfed, there is no reason to ever be stuck on this phase.

Nothing in T5 has had it's HP nerfed.

[kyorakun]

T5 too hard, yoshida pls nerf.

[Yukiko]

Here is my problem with 90% of the people who say "the fight is easy but...the other people are messing up". It's really quite simple. If you have people in your group who are brain dead..or can't get the mechanic down. Then it's time to say "well...it was fun but your worthless so go somewhere else." then replace them and move on.

You know the difference between true friend and false friend?

[fanservice]

Yes and no.

DS is still killable. 1 unprotected DS isn't the wipe it used to be, but a few of those and you're wiping in cascade order. Plumet will still follow with a death on the tank. (and DS durring twister is still separates vet healers and tanks from new healers and tanks)

To be fair, SCHs in general feel like they make a joke of DS with how lustrate works...

All that needs to happen is the tank to survive the initial hit while the SCH has at least 2 aetherflow stacks on hand.

Ironically the first time I stopped getting clipped by the first twister, dealing with DS during the twister was easy.

[darkstarpoet1]

this thread is funny.

i went back after this last patch and picked up the fc members that did not have any coil experience in my fc along with one other member that was willing to help me. we dropped all the way down to t1 and have taken the group all the way through t5 so far. we have only been running for 3 weeks now and have 5 new people with their first t5 win in the group along with one pug we picked up on our run wednesday night.

best advice is get geared, get a group willing to learn, and put in a little effort. if you can take 5 people with 0 coil experience and teach them 1-5 and get their t5 clear in a few weeks then getting just t5 itself down in a week or so should be pretty easy with decently skilled players. also, i know many are scared of it, but voice chat while learning is a great addition to any party.

Nothing in T5 has had it's HP nerfed.

you are completely wrong. the conflags had their hp nerfed by 40% months ago.