ilvl Requirement "The Broken System"

[ispano]

Exactly not all gear was created equally, so why should the points be. The other things that bothers be is the new relic just turning in the atma should not make it ilvl 100. It should stay at 90 and then go to 95 when you get your first book done then jump up to 100 after you get all your books done.

Because item level is not the effective level of the item based on stats. Item level is the thing that determines how much of ANY stat can be on the item. It determines the max quantity of stats, not the other way around. That's why Atma is 100, since the stats will rise as you do the books from what i90 can hold to what i100 can hold.

[Kagoma]

Because item level is not the effective level of the item based on stats. Item level is the thing that determines how much of ANY stat can be on the item. It determines the max quantity of stats, not the other way around. That's why Atma is 100, since the stats will rise as you do the books from what i90 can hold to what i100 can hold.

Using that logic all crafted gear needs to be bumped up 10 ilvl's because it can be melded. ilvl 70 would be come ilvl 80 and ilvl 90 would become ilvl 100

[ispano]

Using that logic all crafted gear needs to be bumped up 10 ilvl's because it can be melded. ilvl 70 would be come ilvl 80 and ilvl 90 would become ilvl 100

Incorrect. All crafted gear has a cap for every stat that is based on the ilvl. That's why you can only meld a little, say Determination on a piece with it already on it, or none if it's already capped in the case of some HQ items. Also why you can meld a bunch of determination if the item has none to begin with.

[Kagoma]

Incorrect. All crafted gear has a cap for every stat that is based on the ilvl. That's why you can only meld a little, say Determination on a piece with it already on it, or none if it's already capped in the case of some HQ items. Also why you can meld a bunch of determination if the item has none to begin with.

There is truth to what you say that the main stats on the items are capped, However take the ilvl 90 crafted healing gloves 18 Vit 18 Mnd 11 Det 21 Crit.
Now we meld on 4 more det, 12 Pie, and 18 SpS. We now have 18 Vit 18 Mnd 15 Det 21 Crit 12 Pie 18 SpS lets compare them to the ilvl 100/110 gear.

Crafted Soldery Soldery + 1
ilvl 90 ilvl 100 ilvl 110
18 Vit 22 Vit 25 Vit
18 Mnd 21 Mnd 24 Mnd
15 Det 11 Det 12 Det
21 Crit
12 Pie
18 SpS 23 SpS 25 SpS
5 Acc 5 Acc

Looking at this I see a Gain in 4 Vit 3 Mnd 5 SpS 5 Acc, But a loss in 4 Det 21 Crit and 18 Pie just between the ilvl 90 crafted and ilvl 100 Soldery.

[ispano]

There is truth to what you say that the main stats on the items are capped, However take the ilvl 90 crafted healing gloves 18 Vit 18 Mnd 11 Det 21 Crit.
Now we meld on 4 more det, 12 Pie, and 18 SpS. We now have 18 Vit 18 Mnd 15 Det 21 Crit 12 Pie 18 SpS lets compare them to the ilvl 100/110 gear.

Crafted Soldery Soldery + 1
ilvl 90 ilvl 100 ilvl 110
18 Vit 22 Vit 25 Vit
18 Mnd 21 Mnd 24 Mnd
15 Det 11 Det 12 Det
21 Crit
12 Pie
18 SpS 23 SpS 25 SpS
5 Acc 5 Acc

Looking at this I see a Gain in 4 Vit 3 Mnd 5 SpS 5 Acc, But a loss in 4 Det 21 Crit and 18 Pie just between the ilvl 90 crafted and ilvl 100 Soldery.

And that's what you're missing, 3 Mind may not seem like much when you look at straight numbers, but it has a much bigger impact than any secondary stat. It really also depends on what class or job you compare for as to whether or not the melded will even be good or not.

[Kagoma]

And that's what you're missing, 3 Mind may not seem like much when you look at straight numbers, but it has a much bigger impact than any secondary stat. It really also depends on what class or job you compare for as to whether or not the melded will even be good or not.

I know what your saying the reason I picked the healing Gloves is because the secondary stats suck on the ilvl 100 and ilvl 110 gloves.

@ 69 Magic Damage and 400 potency going from 493-496 Mind is about a 4 hp heal increase without crit
but once you factor in the 21 crit that 3 points of mnd is worthless you end up with a 3 hp loss yes I know were talking a change of 3-4 hp on a heal but the point is that ilvl 100 > meld ilvl 90 > ilvl 100 > ilvl 90 for most parts.

[Gilraen]

And that's what you're missing, 3 Mind may not seem like much when you look at straight numbers, but it has a much bigger impact than any secondary stat. It really also depends on what class or job you compare for as to whether or not the melded will even be good or not.

I think you're also overlooking the 12 Piety. If we're talking White Mage Piety is a vital stat that should be enhanced every chance you get. 12 Piety may only give a couple more casts of Cure, but each casting of Cure is a chance to get a free Cure II. And a free Cure II means more mp for the next few Cures to follow. Also 21 Crit is a vital stat for Scholars so can't discount that, either, but I think there's a drop that gives better Crit in one of the Coils.