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  1. #11
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    Kagoma's Avatar
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    Kagoma Wisp
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Nekodar View Post
    For two-handed weapons, shield slot is same as weapon slot.
    iLevel is always iLevelTotal / 13.
    Ahh did not know that. When I did testing it was by removing items I don't have any weapons lower then ilvl 80 so I never noticed, B/C you can't remove them ^^.
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  2. #12
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    Amelia_Pond_Behemoth's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Violet Baudelaire
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 83
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhas View Post
    Or they are truly new and don't know better. You can be reported for vote kick abuse. Not having current gear is not on the list for acceptable vote kick use.
    If someone came to an instance with level 10 weapon, and level 10 main armor with level 90 other slots to offset that, then it's clear they're trolling. You get weapons at regular intervals from 1 to 30 and AF through job quests. Anything less means they're doing it on purpose.
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  3. #13
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    Adahna Serafi
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    Excalibur
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    Blacksmith Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    This is a non issue because the almost every player does not try to enter dungeons with level 10 weapons never seen it happen myself. If they are doing something like that its obviously to harass the other players, and they can be vote kicked.
    I've actually had this happen a couple of times where someone has an extremely low level weapon in high level content. One time that comes to mind is a Bard with a level 1 weapon doing Chimera and another recently was another Bard using a level 44 aetherial weapon in Titan HM
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  4. #14
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    Leknaat's Avatar
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    Leknaat Phoenix
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Miner Lv 70
    I was in one CT where a tank was literally ONLY wearing Allagan body/legs the rest was crafter gear - head, gloves, feet, all accessories.
    The shield was a vintage 44? I didn't even want to see what sword he was wearing.

    We asked him to swap to some real gear. He ignored us, died in like 2 hits repeatedly.
    We kicked him, he rejoined, kicked him again, he probably would have rejoined again if another tank hadn't filled his spot.
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  5. #15
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    Judge_Xero's Avatar
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    Divine Gate
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    Exodus
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    They wouldn't necessarily have to be completely excluded. Just make it a weighted average that gives much less weight to the jewelry slots and more to the weapon and main armor pieces.
    This 100%. All body pieces should have a higher weight than jewelery. Weapon should be weighted the highest due to WD being worth so much more than other stats.
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  6. #16
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    Jubez187's Avatar
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    Arant Aleite
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 60
    Yea I guess some things should be weighed higher. I don't know, it doesn't really bother me though. It's kinda nit picking saying that some crazy situations might happen. IF someone rolled up in expert dungeon in lvl10 weapon he'd just get vote kicked.
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  7. #17
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    Lunavi's Avatar
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    Luna Nattvind
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    Omega
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Yeah, let us change the entire system because some people can not behave at all... I like the iLvl system, if people want to go out of their way to troll there is nothing SE can do to stop them.
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    Learn, explore, and think for yourself. Make your choices, take actions, and let yourself be free.

  8. #18
    Player kidvideo's Avatar
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    Ember Rage
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    Coeurl
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    I don't like the ilevel system. It just seems like a way to fake raise character level without actually raising the level cap.
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  9. #19
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    Kagoma Wisp
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by kidvideo View Post
    I don't like the ilevel system. It just seems like a way to fake raise character level without actually raising the level cap.
    Agreed. FFXI was great no ilvl you knew what was better for your character or at least I would have hoped you did. If they want to implement anything a weekly skill test to test compliance level.
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  10. #20
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    Your Character
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    Sargatanas
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    Blue Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Kagoma View Post
    Agreed. FFXI was great no ilvl you knew what was better for your character or at least I would have hoped you did. If they want to implement anything a weekly skill test to test compliance level.
    They did implement ilvl in gear eventually. Just not an average that could be used as a benchmark for participating in content.

    As an afterthought to the previous thread, a weighting system wouldn't be that hard to figure out. Just add up all the 375's, 495's and 825's going by myth/soldiery gear and make each piece a portion according to that.
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