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    Quote Originally Posted by Histoire View Post
    we're talking light party queues, which give you the exact same rewards as if you were alone.
    I think you need to make a distinction between queueing up with friends to actually PVP
    And queueing up with friends to just die instantly (no actual gameplay/pvp involved)

    1 is having fun with friends
    the other is bypassing the pvp part of pvp

    If you win-trade to rank 40 and get a full set of gear it becomes a lot easier to get wins in solo queue as almost no low levels can do anything to you. I've been in groups where tanks were completely afk and dd's couldn't kill anyone for 5min
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    I think you need to make a distinction between queueing up with friends to actually PVP
    And queueing up with friends to just die instantly (no actual gameplay/pvp involved)

    1 is having fun with friends
    the other is bypassing the pvp part of pvp

    If you win-trade to rank 40 and get a full set of gear it becomes a lot easier to get wins in solo queue as almost no low levels can do anything to you. I've been in groups where tanks were completely afk and dd's couldn't kill anyone for 5min
    not necessarily. both are considered having fun with friends, the differences are in the way they choose to do it. you've simply applied your own feelings and your own thought process to it and called it fact.

    just because a few dolts decided to queue up at rank 40 doesn't make them the problem. it's this craptastic pvp system we've been given. and chances are they sat there forever waiting because they over rank everyone. it's terrible for -everyone- that solos.

    by this logic, whenever people hit rank 40, be it legitimately or otherwise, you're still going to be upset when they smash on you oh so easily. you're upset with the process, and i understand that, but they're by no means your main problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Histoire View Post
    not necessarily. both are considered having fun with friends, the differences are in the way they choose to do it. you've simply applied your own feelings and your own thought process to it and called it fact.

    just because a few dolts decided to queue up at rank 40 doesn't make them the problem. it's this craptastic pvp system we've been given. and chances are they sat there forever waiting because they over rank everyone. it's terrible for -everyone- that solos.
    how is joining a pvp match to die (not actually pvping) any different than going into a titan ex and glitching it so you never get hit?
    Both are ignoring the game design and getting an "easy win" for rewards
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    how is joining a pvp match to die (not actually pvping) any different than going into a titan ex and glitching it so you never get hit?
    Both are ignoring the game design and getting an "easy win" for rewards
    again with the comparisons pve to pvp, but i'll humor you:

    how is say, jumping onto a rock, and watching the mob sit there unable to hit you (this is the only titan exploit i remember off the top of my head) comparable to getting 7 people together and working toward a goal? you disagree with the method.

    so by your logic and disagreeing with the method people who choose to do aurum vale 47-50 instead of fate would be a problem, but they're not in your way, so you don't care.

    the system is screwing you. not the people. if this were to be considered even remotely an exploit i would be utterly baffled. it is no different than 1.0 power leveling, no different than quick leveling methods in the current game.

    it's like adding the DF into the equation made people explode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Histoire View Post
    again with the comparisons pve to pvp, but i'll humor you:

    how is say, jumping onto a rock, and watching the mob sit there unable to hit you (this is the only titan exploit i remember off the top of my head) comparable to getting 7 people together and working toward a goal? you disagree with the method.

    so by your logic and disagreeing with the method people who choose to do aurum vale 47-50 instead of fate would be a problem, but they're not in your way, so you don't care.

    the system is screwing you. not the people.
    Aurum vale has mobs that give exp. Killing mobs is gameplay. You kill mobs, you get exp.
    PvP is a competition. If all you do is go in to die, why even have pvp? why not just give away the gear free? You aren't actually playing the game.
    Same way botting PvP isn't playing the game
    And same way entering PvP and afking wouldn't be playing the game
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