PVP Wintrade Exploitation, is this reportable?

[Okazaki]

Just because the system allows it, doesn't mean that it's "Working as intended". How can you honestly claim that SE wanted us to take turns beating on each other in order to level up?

The same people are probably the ones that buy gil, use bots, and all around just suck as players in general.

tl;dr Stop being bad, and do things legit.

Sadly that's how things go most of the time, and until people get slapped on the wrists by the moderators nothing will happen. When in the event it does happen you can expect a torrent of unjustified complaints as well.

[NyneAlexander]

It's astonishing how bold-faced and illogical some of the people in this thread are defending wintrading. Lie to yourselves all you'd like, but the truth is you're only attempting to make it seem like the lousy way you're doing things is the intentional way to level. If SE wanted this, they would have just handed us the gear. Anyone who claims otherwise is just deluding themselves.

They do just give us the gear. You get points for losing. The same points you use to buy the gear. You could literally go in, get rolled immediately, and just afk until the match is over. You still get points.

[Dhex]

They do just give us the gear. You get points for losing. The same points you use to buy the gear. You could literally go in, get rolled immediately, and just afk until the match is over. You still get points.

What's sad is if you don't have any PVP gear/abilities or team without any PVP gear/abilities you generally have no option but to go in and get rolled immediately until you have enough to put up a decent fight.

[Alistaire]

That's not unfortunate. Just sayin.

[AiChyan]

Damn it Sairaus You made PVP seem appealing lol

[sairaus]

I can understand that stance azur, but IMO wintrading being an exploit or not, I believe solo ques are doomed as long as 4 man premades can que against each other and get solo que points. until those glaring issues are fixed I would never go back to solo que and I would hope no one else would either 30 min ques<instaques

[ish007xx]

i would 4v4 if people actually battled instead of just throwing games for free xp

[Azurymber]

i would 4v4 if people actually battled instead of just throwing games for free xp

same here. 4v4 would be nice but if you queue it's just people pulling out non stop

[MakoRaiju]

I can understand that stance azur, but IMO wintrading being an exploit or not, I believe solo ques are doomed as long as 4 man premades can que against each other and get solo que points. until those glaring issues are fixed I would never go back to solo que and I would hope no one else would either 30 min ques<instaques

Ofc you wont go back to solo queue when you can make arrangements with your 2nd party that you queue up with that you have already arranged who is gonna win this and that round. Thats why its called win-trading and the fact that its instant because its already 4v4 makes it even better. Not to mention the queues beeing bad is because everyone is arranging with a 2nd team to arrange wins and losses in the fastest possible way in turns. And because of this, solo queues are taking forever beacuse there simply is not enough players of different ranks in the solo/duo/triple queues. These are points that have already been mentioned and also something you yourself have said that you are taking a part in doing so why are you saying different things after? Are you just spinning more excuses to justify these actions or do you just dont understand the concept of what everyone have been trying to discuss here?

Making teams of 4s to pvp against other teams of 4s is at NOT what ppl are discussing here, that would have been fine and all that where there is actual competition on winning/losing. ARRANGING wins and loses is what ppl is reacting on, queueing two teams up together for instant queue and just farm each other in turns.

[Okazaki]

Making teams of 4s to pvp against other teams of 4s is at NOT what ppl are discussing here, that would have been fine and all that where there is actual competition on winning/losing. ARRANGING wins and loses is what ppl is reacting on, queueing two teams up together for instant queue and just farm each other in turns.

Exactly this, the queue is designed for 4 people to RANDOMLY ecounter another group of 4. Not to enter as 8 with a predetermined win/lose agenda.