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    Pandastirfry's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkghyom View Post
    Did you mean "Swiftcast" ?
    nah he means Surecast...personally as a non-raiding SCH main, I find little utility in it and find Blizz 2+Cleric Stance to be a better use of my cross class slots. but in Things like EX-Primals, CT, and Coil, getting off a Succor, Adloquium, Ressurection or re-summon with Swiftcast on cool down can save a run. But yes any ACN/SMN/SCH that didn't lvl thm to at least 26 is missing a very important cross class skill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandastirfry View Post
    nah he means Surecast...personally as a non-raiding SCH main, I find little utility in it and find Blizz 2+Cleric Stance to be a better use of my cross class slots. but in Things like EX-Primals, CT, and Coil, getting off a Succor, Adloquium, Ressurection or re-summon with Swiftcast on cool down can save a run. But yes any ACN/SMN/SCH that didn't lvl thm to at least 26 is missing a very important cross class skill.
    Blizzard II is ok. Surecast? Hmm.... Apocatastasis *coughs*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandastirfry View Post
    nah he means Surecast...personally as a non-raiding SCH main, I find little utility in it and find Blizz 2+Cleric Stance to be a better use of my cross class slots. but in Things like EX-Primals, CT, and Coil, getting off a Succor, Adloquium, Ressurection or re-summon with Swiftcast on cool down can save a run. But yes any ACN/SMN/SCH that didn't lvl thm to at least 26 is missing a very important cross class skill.
    Surecast has little utility and an underused niche, but it does have a use and it beats out the other options you have as a SCH cross-class after you get the required. Off the top of my head only Turn 7 and Leviathan EX have mechanics that will guarantee a spell interrupt, so it has uses there and in other content where you don't want to risk getting interrupted by aoe damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhemi1 View Post
    Surecast has little utility and an underused niche, but it does have a use and it beats out the other options you have as a SCH cross-class after you get the required. Off the top of my head only Turn 7 and Leviathan EX have mechanics that will guarantee a spell interrupt, so it has uses there and in other content where you don't want to risk getting interrupted by aoe damage.

    Surecast is handy in any situation where you want to heal while taking heavy damage. Pretty much 100% of content t5 and beyond has a situation like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eagledorf View Post
    Surecast is handy in any situation where you want to heal while taking heavy damage. Pretty much 100% of content t5 and beyond has a situation like this.
    I haven't gotten interrupted in T6 or T8 yet but perhaps I've gotten lucky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhemi1 View Post
    I haven't gotten interrupted in T6 or T8 yet but perhaps I've gotten lucky.
    I'm sort of surprised to hear that actually, perhaps I was mistaken. I get interrupted casting in t9 even on Paladin so I just sort of assumed a healer with a fraction of my HP and defense would be interrupted as well. Our healers don't seem to make very much use of Surecast either, but there's some rather hard hitting stuff in the new coil that can target healers if somebody dies or you (mis)handle mechanics a certain way such as the fireballs in t7, acid and laser in t6, and the bomb/lasers in t8. Anyway, spumes frequently interrupt me when healing Leviathan EX.
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    Last edited by eagledorf; 04-23-2014 at 12:24 PM.