Make Physick and Cure Different

[Kyrosiris]

Also, please elaborate on your uses for surecast and blizzard 2, they seem worthless

I think it's a pretty good way to tell the quality of a healer by their opinion on Surecast. The less they think of Surecast, the less of a competent player they are.

[Arkghyom]

I think it's a pretty good way to tell the quality of a healer by their opinion on Surecast. The less they think of Surecast, the less of a competent player they are.

Did you mean "Swiftcast" ?

[Pandastirfry]

Did you mean "Swiftcast" ?

nah he means Surecast...personally as a non-raiding SCH main, I find little utility in it and find Blizz 2+Cleric Stance to be a better use of my cross class slots. but in Things like EX-Primals, CT, and Coil, getting off a Succor, Adloquium, Ressurection or re-summon with Swiftcast on cool down can save a run. But yes any ACN/SMN/SCH that didn't lvl thm to at least 26 is missing a very important cross class skill.

[Arkghyom]

nah he means Surecast...personally as a non-raiding SCH main, I find little utility in it and find Blizz 2+Cleric Stance to be a better use of my cross class slots. but in Things like EX-Primals, CT, and Coil, getting off a Succor, Adloquium, Ressurection or re-summon with Swiftcast on cool down can save a run. But yes any ACN/SMN/SCH that didn't lvl thm to at least 26 is missing a very important cross class skill.

Blizzard II is ok. Surecast? Hmm.... Apocatastasis *coughs*

[rhemi1]

nah he means Surecast...personally as a non-raiding SCH main, I find little utility in it and find Blizz 2+Cleric Stance to be a better use of my cross class slots. but in Things like EX-Primals, CT, and Coil, getting off a Succor, Adloquium, Ressurection or re-summon with Swiftcast on cool down can save a run. But yes any ACN/SMN/SCH that didn't lvl thm to at least 26 is missing a very important cross class skill.

Surecast has little utility and an underused niche, but it does have a use and it beats out the other options you have as a SCH cross-class after you get the required. Off the top of my head only Turn 7 and Leviathan EX have mechanics that will guarantee a spell interrupt, so it has uses there and in other content where you don't want to risk getting interrupted by aoe damage.

[eagledorf]

Surecast has little utility and an underused niche, but it does have a use and it beats out the other options you have as a SCH cross-class after you get the required. Off the top of my head only Turn 7 and Leviathan EX have mechanics that will guarantee a spell interrupt, so it has uses there and in other content where you don't want to risk getting interrupted by aoe damage.

Surecast is handy in any situation where you want to heal while taking heavy damage. Pretty much 100% of content t5 and beyond has a situation like this.

[rhemi1]

Surecast is handy in any situation where you want to heal while taking heavy damage. Pretty much 100% of content t5 and beyond has a situation like this.

I haven't gotten interrupted in T6 or T8 yet but perhaps I've gotten lucky.

[eagledorf]

I haven't gotten interrupted in T6 or T8 yet but perhaps I've gotten lucky.

I'm sort of surprised to hear that actually, perhaps I was mistaken. I get interrupted casting in t9 even on Paladin so I just sort of assumed a healer with a fraction of my HP and defense would be interrupted as well. Our healers don't seem to make very much use of Surecast either, but there's some rather hard hitting stuff in the new coil that can target healers if somebody dies or you (mis)handle mechanics a certain way such as the fireballs in t7, acid and laser in t6, and the bomb/lasers in t8. Anyway, spumes frequently interrupt me when healing Leviathan EX.

[Ninix]

I think it's a pretty good way to tell the quality of a healer by their opinion on Surecast. The less they think of Surecast, the less of a competent player they are.

Eh. Surecast is okay, but it's hardly a game-changer. Mostly because almost nothing actually interrupts you in this game. There are a few instances where it might be useful, but nowhere particularly critical. Fireballs on Twin (yawn), Garuda's phase transitions, Ifrit's Hellfires (maybe?) and the Splash from Gyre Spume explosions on Levi EX (which don't seem to do much damage, but interrupt anyway for some reason) are the only ones I can think of off-hand. Spit and that laser shit on Rafflesia don't interrupt, Melucine's Cursed Voice does interrupt but Surecast doesn't work on it, none of the many, many raid-wide explosions in the Avatar fight interrupt you, nothing in the first 40% of T9 interrupts you...

If they wanted to make it an actually valuable spell, they should probably make more of these big raid-wide hits actually stop your casts. Or have it allow you to cast one spell while moving, that'd be neat too.

Now, considering the alternatives are, uh, Aero and Blizzard 2, it's still worth having slotted if only because the other options are so poor.

[KyteStones]

I think it's a pretty good way to tell the quality of a healer by their opinion on Surecast. The less they think of Surecast, the less of a competent player they are.

Not once have i needed Surecast outside of pvp. Swiftcast does the job much better. If you're running content where you're saving Swiftcast for a dead ally or because you're scared you may need it as a sure fire backup, you shouldn't be healing.