Make Physick and Cure Different

[givemeraptors]

So basically SE did stuff and didn't think it out.

Really the opposite here...they did think it out and implemented a second spell...

[Nicobo]

Currently both Scholar and White Mage can take Physick/Cure as a cross-class skill. However, it makes zero sense to take it since they're exactly the same skill. A Scholar can use them both with the same amount of utility, while a White Mage has no reason to use Physick since Cure is traited.

I really don't care how the two are different just as long as some change is made to make them both useful and distinct. One idea I've kicked around is making Physick instant cast with a lower potency. This adds a new tool for all healers - an instant low-efficiency heal that can be cast on the move. It would also give Black Mage and Summoner a minor amount of party support in the form of a heal that can be cast on the move.

I think any changes will only make cure>physick, many sch may not like the result ^^;

[Syrellaris]

As a summoner I don't think making Physick insta cast with a lower potency is a good idea(based on the ops post). It is already pretty weak for us as is, make it even lower and it looses functionality I think.

[Pandastirfry]

As a summoner I don't think making Physick insta cast with a lower potency is a good idea(based on the ops post). It is already pretty weak for us as is, make it even lower and it looses functionality I think.

Really for me the few times I run SMN, the only real utility of Physick, is when I'm on the bottom of the triage order, or when Sustain just isn't enough to keep my pet up, otherwise due to it's already lowered potency, in most content it and cross classed cure can't keep up if I try to help out the healer/ or cover for a downed one.

[Syrellaris]

That is why I am saying it isn't a very powerful skill for us to begin with, I think the max i've healed with it at 50 on our end game tank is 480 or so.. give or take a few. I use it when the Healer struggles or when they can't or don't have the time to heal me. I also use it to heal my Egi's when sustain can't handle it. But other then that, making it insta cast with a lower potency would even throw the little bit of useage is does have out of the window. Whats the point of healing someone for 200 instead of 480 just because it is a insta cast.

[Yoohre_WildRiver]

Cure > than physicks because cure removes sleep, while physicks dosent.

[Synapse]

Simple.

Cure should be MND based, since it comes from WHM.

Physcis should be INT based, since it comes from Arcanist.

Also Surecast spell should be casted even when the player moves.

[Airal]

It seems to me the reason SE never added any procs to Physick for SCH was simply to balance it against WHM. They have an easier time maintaining their MP pool with Aetherflow being up every minute as opposed to Shroud of Saints being every two minutes. To compensate WHM was given Freecure (and to a degree, Overcure). SCH is also able to use a manaless heal in Lustrate which is far more versatile than Benediction, so I feel like the two even out quite well.

[Sorata]

It seems to me the reason SE never added any procs to Physick for SCH was simply to balance it against WHM. They have an easier time maintaining their MP pool with Aetherflow being up every minute as opposed to Shroud of Saints being every two minutes. To compensate WHM was given Freecure (and to a degree, Overcure). SCH is also able to use a manaless heal in Lustrate which is far more versatile than Benediction, so I feel like the two even out quite well.

Agree. Not to mention, SCH has fairy. It can do 1/3 of the job for you even if you screw up (keyboard temporary jammed up, for example.) For WHM, you don't have that benefit.

[Pandastirfry]

It seems to me the reason SE never added any procs to Physick for SCH was simply to balance it against WHM. They have an easier time maintaining their MP pool with Aetherflow being up every minute as opposed to Shroud of Saints being every two minutes. To compensate WHM was given Freecure (and to a degree, Overcure). SCH is also able to use a manaless heal in Lustrate which is far more versatile than Benediction, so I feel like the two even out quite well.

exactly, it's our ability to manage our mp pool, galvanize, and the fairy that allows us to deal with the squishier WAR tanks better than a WHM can, We can focus on a single target while the fairy and Succor's party wide galvanize takes care of everybody else, and why WHM does better with a PLD, PLDs better damage mitigation and WHM's regen allows them to spread out their healing and multitask in a party better. It's all about the niche that the two healers types fill. While each can do "well" with both tank types, they each compliment specific tanks "better"