Make Physick and Cure Different

[Fluff]

Currently both Scholar and White Mage can take Physick/Cure as a cross-class skill. However, it makes zero sense to take it since they're exactly the same skill. A Scholar can use them both with the same amount of utility, while a White Mage has no reason to use Physick since Cure is traited.

I really don't care how the two are different just as long as some change is made to make them both useful and distinct. One idea I've kicked around is making Physick instant cast with a lower potency. This adds a new tool for all healers - an instant low-efficiency heal that can be cast on the move. It would also give Black Mage and Summoner a minor amount of party support in the form of a heal that can be cast on the move.

[Yallaid]

supported!

But is this the right sub-forum for this? Doesn't seem like website feedback, and I'd hate for this idea to get buried cause it wasn't filed into the right slot.

[Alec_Slater]

I'm pretty sure the "distinct" element, from the design team's perspective, is actually in terms of the other cross-class destinations for the skill. That is, BLM, SMN, and PLD. PLD can't get Physick, and BLM + SMN can't get Cure. Rather than violate the general rules of cross-class selections coming from only two other base classes, they made separate versions for ACN and CNJ.

I really don't want to use up another cross-class skill slot just to get the standard (full-potency) Cure spell on my SCH, as I prefer its behavior over that of your proposed Physick change. As it is, there are already too many cross-class skills a SCH should have from CNJ for solo-queueing: Cleric Stance, Protect, Stoneskin. As it stands, I already have too many to choose from, as after Swiftcast, I can only take one of Blizz II or Surecast (useful in super end-game content) - I already have to leave out Aero and find myself too lazy to think ahead for swapping Surecast and Blizz II as it is.

[Phafi]

I too like to cast healing spells on PLD BLM and SMN for 200 that it makes a difference in any way at all.

Also, please elaborate on your uses for surecast and blizzard 2, they seem worthless. @Alec_Slater

I'd support this change for Physick @OP

[Kyrosiris]

Also, please elaborate on your uses for surecast and blizzard 2, they seem worthless

I think it's a pretty good way to tell the quality of a healer by their opinion on Surecast. The less they think of Surecast, the less of a competent player they are.

[Arkghyom]

I think it's a pretty good way to tell the quality of a healer by their opinion on Surecast. The less they think of Surecast, the less of a competent player they are.

Did you mean "Swiftcast" ?

[Pandastirfry]

Did you mean "Swiftcast" ?

nah he means Surecast...personally as a non-raiding SCH main, I find little utility in it and find Blizz 2+Cleric Stance to be a better use of my cross class slots. but in Things like EX-Primals, CT, and Coil, getting off a Succor, Adloquium, Ressurection or re-summon with Swiftcast on cool down can save a run. But yes any ACN/SMN/SCH that didn't lvl thm to at least 26 is missing a very important cross class skill.

[Arkghyom]

nah he means Surecast...personally as a non-raiding SCH main, I find little utility in it and find Blizz 2+Cleric Stance to be a better use of my cross class slots. but in Things like EX-Primals, CT, and Coil, getting off a Succor, Adloquium, Ressurection or re-summon with Swiftcast on cool down can save a run. But yes any ACN/SMN/SCH that didn't lvl thm to at least 26 is missing a very important cross class skill.

Blizzard II is ok. Surecast? Hmm.... Apocatastasis *coughs*

[rhemi1]

nah he means Surecast...personally as a non-raiding SCH main, I find little utility in it and find Blizz 2+Cleric Stance to be a better use of my cross class slots. but in Things like EX-Primals, CT, and Coil, getting off a Succor, Adloquium, Ressurection or re-summon with Swiftcast on cool down can save a run. But yes any ACN/SMN/SCH that didn't lvl thm to at least 26 is missing a very important cross class skill.

Surecast has little utility and an underused niche, but it does have a use and it beats out the other options you have as a SCH cross-class after you get the required. Off the top of my head only Turn 7 and Leviathan EX have mechanics that will guarantee a spell interrupt, so it has uses there and in other content where you don't want to risk getting interrupted by aoe damage.

[Ninix]

I think it's a pretty good way to tell the quality of a healer by their opinion on Surecast. The less they think of Surecast, the less of a competent player they are.

Eh. Surecast is okay, but it's hardly a game-changer. Mostly because almost nothing actually interrupts you in this game. There are a few instances where it might be useful, but nowhere particularly critical. Fireballs on Twin (yawn), Garuda's phase transitions, Ifrit's Hellfires (maybe?) and the Splash from Gyre Spume explosions on Levi EX (which don't seem to do much damage, but interrupt anyway for some reason) are the only ones I can think of off-hand. Spit and that laser shit on Rafflesia don't interrupt, Melucine's Cursed Voice does interrupt but Surecast doesn't work on it, none of the many, many raid-wide explosions in the Avatar fight interrupt you, nothing in the first 40% of T9 interrupts you...

If they wanted to make it an actually valuable spell, they should probably make more of these big raid-wide hits actually stop your casts. Or have it allow you to cast one spell while moving, that'd be neat too.

Now, considering the alternatives are, uh, Aero and Blizzard 2, it's still worth having slotted if only because the other options are so poor.