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  1. #41
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    Estellios's Avatar
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    Yoso Carrasco
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    Hyperion
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    Monk Lv 77
    Quote Originally Posted by Astralos View Post
    SE should really offer the option of a gil refund for those who want it and have bought houses/plots before this news was released to players. It was a really shady move to make up this new rule after the system was already in place.
    They mentioned this system in the 2.1 patch notes when housing was introduced, the only thing they didn't state was the inactivity time required for a house to be relinquished since the devs were still discussing it.
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  2. #42
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    Welsper59's Avatar
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    Eros Maxima
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    Leviathan
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    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Even for a S closely knitted FC for 10-20 ppl, surely at least one of those members will most likely be on way before the 35th day.

    Put it this way, if you invested so much into a FC house in the first place, i would think it will be used not sitting around collecting dust.
    With that many people, yeah, it's reasonable to expect someone to go to it at least once. But I was getting at the "small family" or "several friends" bit I mentioned. I know of several FCs that are like that, where it's just a small group of friends (3-5). Some folks like to take breaks, and a month really isn't that long of a time period to lose an investment IMO. Namely when you consider monthly subscriptions tend to correlate heavily to monthly salaries/pay for some people. Something like 90 days might be a little extreme, given the circumstance, but a month (or rather 35 days) is a bit short to me.
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  3. #43
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    Musashidon's Avatar
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    Blackmage Vivi
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    Leviathan
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    i am just glad there isn't a certain number limit. i bought a house for me and my gf so it's just us two who owns the house.
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  4. #44
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    Tupsi's Avatar
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    Odsarzol Que
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    What an excellent attitude from a paying customer. Just let SE do whatever they want!
    You don't click "I agree" if you don't agree with what the terms state...I just know what I read before I hit I agree.
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  5. #45
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    Starlord's Avatar
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    Luna Sushima
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    What an excellent attitude from a paying customer. Just let SE do whatever they want!

    No, thank you. It doesn't matter if they technically "can" do whatever they want. We have every right to tell them they shouldn't.



    It is no one's business what I or anyone else does with our FC houses. Visit them daily, hang out ever couple weeks, decorate it up and then forget about it for a few months until some new decoration comes along... even just purchasing it and "letting it rot". It doesn't matter. It was the player(s)' gil and time. They do not deserve getting that taken from them.
    If they let them to just "sit and rot" regardless of gil put into them. It's one less space some other FC could use but can't because the Whole FC just doesn't care about it/not logged in for a long time.
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  6. #46
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    Naunet's Avatar
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    Mide Uyagir
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    You don't click "I agree" if you don't agree with what the terms state...I just know what I read before I hit I agree.
    You should read up on how valid MMO ToSes actually are in court.
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  7. 04-11-2014 09:29 AM

  8. #47
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    myahele's Avatar
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    Tonrak Totorak
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    I think it'll affect smaller FCs

    But still, it not fair. Its not like there's a shortage of FC housing. Make it atleast 60 days.
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  9. #48
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    Tupsi's Avatar
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    Odsarzol Que
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    You should read up on how valid MMO ToSes actually are in court.
    I also read how often those who sue companies fail as well. See, my point is: You can't tell SE what they can and cannot do when you agree to the terms to play their product - You can feel it's wrong all you want, but it won't change the fact you agreed to them saying you own nothing.

    If you're an investor, however, I apologize.
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    Last edited by Tupsi; 04-11-2014 at 10:02 AM.

  10. #49
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    Jeykama's Avatar
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    Meru Maru
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    Balmung
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post
    True for larger FC's, but what about the smaller ones? Perhaps any that might be owned by a small family (or just several friends). I mean, getting access to an S house is cheap enough these days, but it's pretty disappointing to take a short break and come back to not having your FC house and any decorations you invested into it lol.
    Aye, and like I said earlier (and what people quoted out of context), if even a smaller FC's members can't be arsed to check the house in more than a month, they don't need the house. I don't care if they're taking month+ long breaks or just not subscribing until the next content patch, their house is collecting dust and taking up a space perhaps some more active FC might want to use. The reasoning is solid especially if they don't intend to add any more wards, just the grace period seems a bit short (the same timeframe as automatic FC leader transfer if inactive)
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    Last edited by Jeykama; 04-11-2014 at 09:47 AM.

  11. #50
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    Astralos's Avatar
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    Astralos Bladesong
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    Gilgamesh
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Estellios View Post
    They mentioned this system in the 2.1 patch notes when housing was introduced, the only thing they didn't state was the inactivity time required for a house to be relinquished since the devs were still discussing it.
    Did they really mention it all the way back then? If so, then it's my mistake; I don't remember them saying so.
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