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  1. #521
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    AmnesiaHaze's Avatar
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    Amnesiahaze Conjurer
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    Phoenix
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    Oh, I won't even try to argue that it's fun, because it's not, but complaining that it's time consuming when the patch hasn't even been online for 48 hours is just stupid.
    yes technically its not as time consuming as it feels , it feels so long because there is no feel for any progress (such as a xp bar , or achievent count etc.) , and if you the one farming for several hours in a area and see how others you meet get them way faster it feels unfair and even longer than it really is
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  2. #522
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    Jin Torama
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    Gilgamesh
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    Lancer Lv 60
    The worst thing is that after all the grind you have to go through to get your Atma weapon (ilvl 100), you notice there's no difference whatsoever with the Relic Zenith (ilvl 90). Same stats, same DMG, same DPS, yet it's ilvl 100 out of nowhere. Now that there is a load of bullcrap.

    Tidal Wave Shamshir (ilvl 100) is a LOT better than the Atma Relic.
    Comparison:
    Tidal Wave Shamshir: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...m/d32955f726f/
    Curtana Atma: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...m/c47c20d73a5/

    Then after getting your pretty Atma Relic, after all that mindless grind, you have to get your Animus Relic, which is still ilvl 100, but it ACTUALLY has improvements:
    Curtana Animus: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...m/24dc485b4c8/

    I bet you guys already know you need to spend 13500 Myths in total to get your Animus Relic, right? So... yay for more grind! **Sarcasm**
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  3. #523
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    Novari Frilaix
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    Excalibur
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    Archer Lv 50
    Thats the point. Animus is suppose to be the better one, but you have to get Atma first.

    This is what happens when people cry for more challenging content, but then cry about how hard the dungeons are.
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  4. #524
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    Gukster's Avatar
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    Mata Reiver
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 82
    Make it complete every FATE for a given region. Problem solved.

    FATE lovers get their FATEs.
    We see progress and have set goals not BS luck.

    The problem is the implementation.
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  5. #525
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    Buster Posey
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    Coeurl
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Wicc View Post

    This is what happens when people cry for more challenging content, but then cry about how hard the dungeons are.
    Why would S.E listen to da vocal minority!!?? I thought their opinion didn't matter!!?
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  6. #526
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    Mister-Wonderful's Avatar
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    Mister Wonderful
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    Excalibur
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Gukster View Post
    Make it complete every FATE for a given region. Problem solved.

    FATE lovers get their FATEs.
    We see progress and have set goals not BS luck.

    The problem is the implementation.
    Pretty much this.
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  7. #527
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    Character
    Kaz Lyhart
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    Tonberry
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    Armorer Lv 50
    A level 50 camping a level 20 zone is not challenging whatsoever...
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  8. #528
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    Mister Wonderful
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    Excalibur
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeral View Post
    A level 50 camping a level 20 zone is not challenging whatsoever...
    The challenge comes from staying logged in and grinding. I couldn't do it last night.
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  9. #529
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    Velo'a Nharoz
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeral View Post
    A level 50 camping a level 20 zone is not challenging whatsoever...
    There is a thing called level sync which prevents you from using level 50 skills and lowers your stats to compensate. You are effectively a level 20 camping a level 20 zone, just you carry the "experience" of being a level 50.

    Not saying it's challenging or not challenging, but you can't get FATE rewards unless you do sync down to that level.
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  10. #530
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    Seif Dincht
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by AmnesiaHaze View Post
    yes technically its not as time consuming as it feels , it feels so long because there is no feel for any progress (such as a xp bar , or achievent count etc.) , and if you the one farming for several hours in a area and see how others you meet get them way faster it feels unfair and even longer than it really is
    I'm completely fine with it being a slow progress but like you I don't feel like randomness gives it any sense of progress at all.
    I'm honestly happy we have these long-term goals but I don't understand why they went with this random method. It can feel frustrating.
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