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    Sunarie's Avatar
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    Astraia Hornraven
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    Leviathan
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Versiroth View Post
    You will be able to craft i90 gear. Which is the equivalent of Myth or BC. That's not good enough? You really think you should be able to craft 100 gear? Which will be the ilvl of Soldiery tome gear? How can you not see the problem with that? So, I can grind for two weeks for 1 piece of soldiery gear or I can RMT my way into a full set of i100 crafted, meld it and be done with everything but BC 6-9! Seriously.... it has nothing to do with you "having gil". It's the fact that you don't seem to care if you're ability to make gil will completely destroy the game.
    Or, you can RMT and buy runs through things to get the gear too (you get tomes for those runs -plus- whatever items). Seriously, using RMT as an excuse doesn't work. You can mind-numblingly run dungeons with little to no effort to get soldiery gear too (I assure you the dungeons aren't really going to take effort and wipes and work once they've been out for a while). Horizontal progression doesn't destroy the game. At all. RMTers might, but that hardly has to do with crafting and items.

    Having the equivalent of myth now is basically the same as having the equivalent of Philo.. it's useless. Crafting (for the very large part) in this game is useless. Heck, even the high end foods for culinary (the 2-star stuff) is currently useless. I also, just for the record, don't think ANY tome gear should be BiS. People like you don't seem to have a problem with that though. It's fine to put very little effort into getting tomes and get a BiS item, but when someone puts effort into earning gil to legitimately buy an item they somehow don't deserve it (and shame on the crafter for selling it!). There are MMOs that have crafting with gear that is very near to BiS.. and those games aren't broken or destroyed by that gear.

    You're the one throwing around some scenario where people have to buy the stuff, or pretending RMTers don't already get gear for gil as is (even though the Coil, HM, and EX runs I've seen being sold beg to differ). The case you're trying to make, doesn't work. Having multiple gear choices is good.

    Quote Originally Posted by Akiva_Ninazu View Post
    Because the game should be about the skill in running *all* content, not the skill in hitting the "Make HQ Shiny" button in front of repair vendor or the skill in farming endlessly to pay the all-but-guaranteed-to-be-obscene price demands of someone who does.

    This argument boils down to crafters not wanting to have to put the time in to earn next-to-BiS gear in order to challenge end-game. You don't want to run the content, you just want to spam the crafting buttons to shortcut yourself into that gear and then get paid to do it thereafter. Lazy.
    I want more gear choices. I don't actually make money on the market. If you were to look at my crafting sets, they aren't melded... heck most of them aren't even all HQ. I leveled crafting to help people with gear for alts they were leveling. Now that everyone is done with that, my crafter side has been resigned to making food for raids. Getting materia up to craft 2-star gear for guildies just isn't worth it when they can easily get full DL in a week and be on to myth. The same is going to be true for the myth equivalent stuff. Having done Coil (with the exception of Turn 5), and having nearly BiS gear on my PLD (I'm missing 3 pieces from the list) I can say that getting dark light is FAR easier and requires way less work and attention than maxing out stats for materia on my gear (and who knows how much that would cost, or what the new needed stats would be).. heck, even getting myth pieces is far easier than the work I would need to put in to have the ability to craft stuff that's only marginally better (and only when penta-melded) than Darklight.

    I want choices, I want stuff to be useful and not just sit there. I'm not actually out to make money. I would actually call all the folks who want tome gear to be BiS the lazy ones.
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    Last edited by Sunarie; 03-26-2014 at 05:13 AM.