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    I have waited a long time to try out garuda and titan hm, I decided that I'd try to get some gear from crystal tower and maybe one or two ilvl 90. But now that they're nerfing it I don't really feel like trying it out anymore. What's the point, if we wipe it will just be easier. Feel so bummed out and I am not even sure if I want to play anymore. I think this game is great and I want the progress to be slower so that I won't get bored too quickly, but by nerfing everything they're doing the exact opposite.

    It's like "Alright we got new content, screw the old one, new player shouldn't get the same experience as older players so let's just makie it so easy that they can't fail it"

    I also read that they're nerfing my favourite dungeon, Pharos Sirius. I loved it cause we wiped so many times but manage to finally beat the bosses by trial and error.

    Are people playing to have fun or to get the latest gear as soon as possible?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiara1 View Post
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    You can remove the Echo Buff. If you want it to continue being difficult, you have that option. The progress is getting higher iLVLs. It will still be slow. Even if you leave the Echo Buff on, you will still die to most everything if you're standing in it. The only thing that will be easier is the speed of the fight itself. DPS will have an easier time, and healers as well. Tanking and mechanics of movement are still relevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clavaat View Post
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    I just don't understand the concept. They get new content, which mean the game will live longer. You could take the step from fresh 50 to ilvl 70, and start farming ct for ilvl 80 then the myth gear and theen you get the chance to try the new content.
    But instead they made it so you theoretically could get ilvl 80 (at least some parts) in one day by grinding ct. And try out the new content the same day you hit 50. And then when they've done the new content everyone will get bored and wait for the new content. Instead they could keep it as it is so that it took longer to get to the latest content for new players so they wouldn't get bored too fast.

    Sorry if I'm typing in a really messy way and it might not even make any sense! But I'm too tired to figure out a smarter way to get my point out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiara1 View Post
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    Well you're doing the latter obviously. Since you aren't even doing old content regardless if you have the gear for it or not. So your 2 cents are a complaint that you should take up with your own persona.

    Most people want to do the content but they realize it is not possible when you have to rely on 3-7 people that you can't truly depend on. Which is why the amount of people that can down content is a very small percentage and will only get smaller and smaller for obvious reasons.

    Every individual plays for their own reasons there's no point generalizing when you're only questioning up to 5-10 people here at most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post
    blah.
    I don't know if you replied to my first or second post, but I'll assume you replied to first one.
    And then I think you're wrong about how I play it. I have full ilvl 70 gear, yet I play the main scenario like once or twice a week. Or well the Praetorium at least cause I think the last boss is really fun and the music is awesome. I do Ifrit hm a couple of times a week even though I got my staff from him already just cause I think it's a really fun fight. And I was thinking that I'd try to take on Garuda hm this week. The gear doesn't really matter to me, I just want to enjoy the game and then slowly progress towards end game gear. That's why I don't like it when they're nerfing my favourite parts of the game.

    I understand if they'd nerf these fights later, maybe after an expansion or so, but I think they're nerfing everything a bit too early. I started playing this game a month ago when there was a sale on steam. And I believe a lot of other people bought it as well during that sale. And some of them might not even have reached level 50 and SE are already nerfing the content they haven't had a chance to try

    I'm basically just expressing my opinion about how I feel about the nerfs and I want to see if there are others out there who thinks like me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiara1 View Post
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    You play in a way that causes you personal confliction because of the way you are. You already stated that twice and you probably aren't realizing it that you are your own barrier.

    Regardless by the end of the day one's playstyle isn't changing, old content isn't extinct, and the echo buff is optional just like wearing best in slot gear. So the paranoia and complaining is still beyond me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Versiroth View Post
    Attributes won't help with Landslide and I've seen Dragoons with over 5k HP get one shot by a couple stacked WoTL. So, adding 1.7K HP or so to a player with 3.5K HP won't stop them from being one shot if they can't dodge. More than anything, the buff will make it so the DPS race isn't as difficult to complete and so that healers have an easier time during unavoidable stuff.
    It would be nice if Dragoon would use the buff as indication that it's okay to stop dpsing for a couple of seconds to avoid mechanics. Yet at least that do dodge can make up for 1 Dragoon in the party that dies to landslide or upheaval.
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    Last edited by Gormogon; 03-25-2014 at 03:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiara1 View Post
    I have waited a long time to try out garuda and titan hm, I decided that I'd try to get some gear from crystal tower and maybe one or two ilvl 90. But now that they're nerfing it I don't really feel like trying it out anymore. What's the point, if we wipe it will just be easier. Feel so bummed out and I am not even sure if I want to play anymore. I think this game is great and I want the progress to be slower so that I won't get bored too quickly, but by nerfing everything they're doing the exact opposite.
    I bet you still die to Titan HM plenty even after the nerf. It's like some people think these nerfs will mean people can just stand in landslide or WoTL and survive. They're not giving people a win button. If people can't dodge and play their class, they will still be halted at Titan HM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Versiroth View Post
    I bet you still die to Titan HM plenty even after the nerf. It's like some people think these nerfs will mean people can just stand in landslide or WoTL and survive. They're not giving people a win button. If people can't dodge and play their class, they will still be halted at Titan HM.
    Actually, with a 50% increase in stats they probably could stand in WoTL and survive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noahlimits View Post
    Actually, with a 50% increase in stats they probably could stand in WoTL and survive.

    Attributes won't help with Landslide and I've seen Dragoons with over 5k HP get one shot by a couple stacked WoTL. So, adding 1.7K HP or so to a player with 3.5K HP won't stop them from being one shot if they can't dodge. More than anything, the buff will make it so the DPS race isn't as difficult to complete and so that healers have an easier time during unavoidable stuff.

    I have 6 relics and Titan HM is a cake walk to me now (I regularly offer to help FC mates who need it), but, I understand players pain. You could go the whole fight and never get hit by anything and still lose constantly because other people can't seem to dodge. Besides that, I don't mind if other players have an easier time obtaining their relic. I had fun getting mine the old way and I'll have fun getting my last three when my SCH/SUM and MNK are level 50. Then again, I play for fun. Not bragging rights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Versiroth View Post
    Attributes won't help with Landslide and I've seen Dragoons with over 5k HP get one shot by a couple stacked WoTL. So, adding 1.7K HP or so to a player with 3.5K HP won't stop them from being one shot if they can't dodge. More than anything, the buff will make it so the DPS race isn't as difficult to complete and so that healers have an easier time during unavoidable stuff.
    I never said anything about landslide. As far as stacked plumes; don't stand near other people. That has nothing to do with latency or even being bad. It's not hard to stand alone, even after he destroys the majority of the instance. You're also forgetting in addition to the 50% hp increase, their defense and magic defense is also being increased by 50%. So yes, likely someone with around 4.5-5k AND a 50% defensive stat increase could stand in multiple plumes and survive.
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