Is anyone else really disappointed with the nerfs coming in 2.2?

**Kuponutz** · 03-23-2014 06:04 AM

As a hardcore gamer I was greatly anticipating 2.2. I have been pretty bored the last couple of weeks waiting. I was excited for some new content.

However, in the LL yesterday they listed a LOT of nerfs in 2.2.

Please SE, push players. Leave content in the game for casual players absolutely, but leave something for the hardcore. I know we are getting Leviathan and more Coil, but that's not much in the big picture, and how long till that gets nerfed, 2.3?

By nerfing content you are basically telling everyone who worked hard for their gear that their time was wasted. Why should we push to beat Leviathan? In 3 months you're just going to make it easier right? Wait till then, do it the easy way and get the same rewards as people who worked really hard to beat it.

Should everyone be entitled to the same rewards regardless of skill level or time invested? I really don't think so.

**Sessurea** · 03-23-2014 06:08 AM

Nope not disappointed. I had my chance at killing stuff at previous difficulty, and I took my time about it and didn't get titan X killed. This is how MMOs work, nerf old for the people who didn't get it done, and bring new challenges for the people that did get it done. what's the problem with all this? You proclaim yourself a hardcore gamer so I can only assume your delighted to say goodbye to the old stuff?

**CUTS3R** · 03-23-2014 06:09 AM

Originally Posted by Kuponutz

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I totally agree with you, especially on this part:

Originally Posted by Kuponutz

Should everyone be entitled to the same rewards regardless of skill level or time invested? I really don't think so.

**Balfreid** · 03-23-2014 06:12 AM

Old content gets nerfed, new content gets released. Welcome to the current cycle of MMORPGs. This has been happening for years.

**Faedden** · 03-23-2014 06:12 AM

I'm disappointed. I know a lot of people are like "Well you already beat it" I like to redo things and when I redo it, I don't want it to be easy. I think they are nerfing stuff to soon, I get nerfing is in every game, but we havent even reached the first expansion or level cap raise yet. It is what it is I guess :<

**TheCurls** · 03-23-2014 06:12 AM

Why do you care so much? You already beat it. It would only get easier for you to beat it again as you gear yourself with 2.2 stuff. You will have the new stuff to challenge you in 2.2, then when they nerf 2.2 as 2.3 comes out, you will have that new stuff to challenge you.

Why should you push to beat the new content before they nerf it? Oh, I don't know. That depends entirely on what kind of player you are. Do you only care that you beat something, are you simply looking for gear upgrades? Or do you like to be challenged?

**Sessurea** · 03-23-2014 06:13 AM

You guys are looking at it the wrong way....

You guys did all content previous 2.2 ( I assume ) and are now ready for the new stuff. Other people will still be working on the old stuff. How is this not rewarding?

**Kuponutz** · 03-23-2014 06:17 AM

Thing is, it's not really how XI worked. Other MMOs yes and there are a great deal of FFXI players in XIV. They are catering 95% of the game to the casual and giving the hardcore really little.

I realize that casual players pay subs, but so do hardcore. Would they really lose that many people by keeping content the way it is? How many subs are they going to lose because people want a challenge and can't find it in XIV?

Part of the charm, and frustration, of XI was it's difficulty level. Did they eventually nerf things, sure, towards the end, but not from the outset. Most players coming from XI to XIV are looking for a similar experience.

If the content being changed was exceptionally hard given the rewards I would understand. For this reason I am not upset with the changes to Pharos. The rewards currently =/= the difficulty. But is there really a need to put echo in extremes, hard modes, Coil? Is AK really THAT much of a problem that they have to nerf every boss?

**Rufalus** · 03-23-2014 06:17 AM

Well anyone who has the attitude to wait for a nerf is not looking for a challenge. If you really want a challenge you will seek the most difficult content like Leviathan Extreme and Second Coil, even knowing that slower players will be entitled to the same rewards months later, purely for the thrill of the challenge.

**Vespar** · 03-23-2014 06:18 AM

I'm not disappointed at all. In fact I don't consider this a nerf at all. It is a BUFF. Not a nerf. They arent TAKING AWAY from the game. They are adding to it... Besides, we've had ample time to play around with the first 5 turns of coil and primals and what have you. If you do consider this a nerf, it doesnt seem any different than things they did in XI in the past. They made CoP easier or instance so new players could clear the content because everyone had done it already and moved on. Obviously SE feels the time is right to help new players get caught up.

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