Is anyone else really disappointed with the nerfs coming in 2.2?

[ispano]

It's not an illusion. Those choices are there. The fact that you aren't doing them are obvious though. Which is hilarious since now you're arguing that "others" are what prevent "you" when you were talking about "others" and not "you" previously to this statement.

Which means ApolloGenX was right in his observations.

That's funny because you can exercise said choice but you only get to choose the outcome of one said choice. This conversation isn't going anywhere because you only want it your way not because there's a discussion to be had.

Sorry, but it is an illusion. Making the choice to do the content unnerfed, but not being able to do said content because of that "choice" due to others making a different choice is not really a choice at all. So sure, you can make said choice, but it doesn't get you anywhere, which is why it's an illusion. Also, if you've read my posts, I see it both ways, I personally am indifferent to the change since I see the pros and cons to both. I also knew ahead of time this would be done.

lmao not being allowed to choose between using a buff or not yeah because its totally locked onto your buff bar active and you totally are not allowed to seek players who also dont want the buff for content

explain to every1 how you wont get to exercise that choice because you kinda can and thats by making your own party instead of joining others

No, it's about choosing to do the content unnerfed. Just because random Joe A chooses he wants to do it unnerfed, doesn't mean he CAN. He has to find 7 other people who are also willing, which may not be possible depending on server and timezone. It's not so simple a choice, it only comes down to simple choice if the content is solo, like Story quest instances for example.

So tell me, how is he to do the content with no nerfs, if everyone else doesn't want to? It's like now, try to find a T2 group that DOESN'T abuse enrage, it happens sometimes if you find a static that's missing a member, but even now many statics do it as well.

[DragonFist]

Sorry, but it is an illusion. Making the choice to do the content unnerfed, but not being able to do said content because of that "choice" due to others making a different choice is not really a choice at all. So sure, you can make said choice, but it doesn't get you anywhere, which is why it's an illusion. Also, if you've read my posts, I see it both ways, I personally am indifferent to the change since I see the pros and cons to both. I also knew ahead of time this would be done.

lol " Making the choice to do the content unnerfed, but not being able to do said content because of that "choice" due to others making a different choice is not really a choice at all."

this makes my day tell me are you against this echo buff and other nerfs because ive seen plenty of people do T2 the normal way and alot do it the enrage way just because the option is there not every 1 will go for it again your opinion is now invalid as proof of the fact people still do T2 normally you say there arent people willing to do the challenge yet there are people who do 1tank extremes solo heal extremes solo tank t4(havent seen t5 done yet) solo heal all t1-5. so the choice to make t5 harder with a solo healer or solo tank is there
theres no choice for not using the echo buff? lmao u make me laugh

[ispano]

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Again, I only speak from experience. When I was new to MMOs I thought like you, it didn't take long to see what happens most of the time however. It's still rather simple. Making a choice to do the content unnerfed, doesn't mean that person can. But on the other side, people who DO want to do it nerfed will have an EASY time of it. It's an illusion, and it's lopsided. I've already pointed out that I understand the pros and cons for and for not nerfing it. And i've told you some of those cons, and you just refuse to understand, so no need to continue with you.

[DragonFist]

Again, I only speak from experience. When I was new to MMOs I thought like you, it didn't take long to see what happens most of the time however. It's still rather simple. Making a choice to do the content unnerfed, doesn't mean that person can. But on the other side, people who DO want to do it nerfed will have an EASY time of it. It's an illusion, and it's lopsided. I've already pointed out that I understand the pros and cons for and for not nerfing it. And i've told you some of those cons, and you just refuse to understand, so no need to continue with you.

lmao yet im not new to mmo's i dont have problems finding people for a party i dont have problems with people opt for T2 normal instead of enrage i havent tried extremes with 1 healer or tank but at some point i would like to. sure half the ppl go for the easy option BUT THAT IS NOT EVERY1 people will try for a challenge its not set in stone "EVERY1 WILL BE BUFF ABUSERS" i know i wont sure ill use it for maybe learning t6+ other than that i have no real use for it apart from garuda ex on my mnk and drg cause they arent i90 yet so cant fully take the hit of wicked wheel so you can moan all u like tbh i know for fact there are going to be players that will try things without the buff and there are players that will use the buff for almost everything and about 50% of those people are going to be the people with latency issues or still play ps3 instead of ps4

[Gormogon]

lol " Making the choice to do the content unnerfed, but not being able to do said content because of that "choice" due to others making a different choice is not really a choice at all."

this makes my day tell me are you against this echo buff and other nerfs because ive seen plenty of people do T2 the normal way and alot do it the enrage way just because the option is there not every 1 will go for it again your opinion is now invalid as proof of the fact people still do T2 normally you say there arent people willing to do the challenge yet there are people who do 1tank extremes solo heal extremes solo tank t4(havent seen t5 done yet) solo heal all t1-5. so the choice to make t5 harder with a solo healer or solo tank is there
theres no choice for not using the echo buff? lmao u make me laugh

That is indeed hilarious.

[DragonFist]

put a party finder up and wait simple as just because joe blogs or whatever cant find 7 ppl at his time zone doesnt mean other people havent been able too hell if your having trouble then thats too bad but the fact is people will do it for the challenge and in my previous post i also mentioned how ppl solo tank and heal this crap you want a challenge and T2 is done by some statics the normal way sure not all statics do it never said they did some do opt for the easy route but those that opt for the enrage does not = the entire server
also if your party does not want to do it the hard way go find a different party its not going to kill u to do a couple of runs with the echo buff but then again u might get lucky and fight a non-buff party if all else fails and u feel completely dissapointed with the server just go swap to a hardcore server or something godknows wat server has the most hardcore ppl but mehh its your choice at the end of the day either you make a party finder and wait god knows how long for it to fill up for no buffs or you join a buff party its 1 or the other just because u dont like to wait for 7 ppl doesnt mean the option isnt there