^ This x 10.000.000.000.000.000Why do people feel their time was wasted? They have had their wins and weapons and armors for ages already and will continue to next content ASAP and yet again be ahead of the people who are still tackling older content.
It's like... imagine if someone gave you a really spiffy bike while your buddy has no bike. For 4 months you will ride the bike every day while your buddy has to walk. One day, someone gives your buddy a bike too. But on the same day, he would also give you an awesome car. Would you now be mad your buddy has a bike and feel like the 4 months you didn't have to walk was useless?
But i guess is more important "to be the very best": Oh, you want to get this shiny item too, even if is outdated? Na, you suck, is not for you.


Except that, now this buddy still has not learned how to ride the bicycle, have training wheels on and will expect future things to handed down to him or come with training wheels..
Goodbye, Final Fantasy...
Mmmm you have a point. But being honest, then we should remove FATEs too, since a lot of players level up to 50 doing them (maybe less now we have duty roulette) and they have no idea how to play their job (i swear one day i saw a full ilvl 90 Monk and i was about to cry seeing his rotation...). Also, i know a lot of people who were carried to get their relics (or selling wins), so i guess no matter what you do, you will always meet someone with "training wheels".


Mmmm you have a point. But being honest, then we should remove FATEs too, since a lot of players level up to 50 doing them (maybe less now we have duty roulette) and they have no idea how to play their job (i swear one day i saw a full ilvl 90 Monk and i was about to cry seeing his rotation...). Also, i know a lot of people who were carried to get their relics (or selling wins), so i guess no matter what you do, you will always meet someone with "training wheels".
yeah just gotta live to the fact that there will be people like that.. im scared of Pick up groups...
Yeah i'm not a fan of FATE, tho i have used it, but it is not a good training for end game... i met bards in WP who didn't know ballad.
Goodbye, Final Fantasy...
I want bumpers on the Titan arena so people won't fall off![]()


Didn't they confirm that you were able to remove the Echo Buff? If so, very little content is actually getting nerfed for "hardcore" players. If you feel that someone else got it the easy way, that's your prerogative, and a fairly narcissistic way of looking at it. This is going to keep happening so that there is a very difficult set of content, and a mid-level difficulty set of content each patch, and it keeps progressing forward. Even with the Echo Buff, T5 will still be quite difficult for a lot of people.
It's OLD content now. I90 is now entry level. You really want SE to make entry level gear difficult to obtain? If you're all "hardcore", then you should have had Turn 5 and the extreme primals on farm for months now. Why should you care that casuals get a little help completing something that you're probably becoming bored of?
Not everyone has a static and can play 40 hours a week. Casual people pay money too and SE has pretty much found the perfect balance. Hardcore people get new content and the casual people get easier access to the older content.
Last edited by Versiroth; 03-24-2014 at 10:55 PM.


Tho i agree with what you are saying, but stop pulling facts from Roegaydens butt.!!!
I disagree with these....
3-5 month content is "old"... it troubles me.it's OLD content now.
Turn 1-5, Primal x3, and a run of CT takes 3 hours. I have no Static(will for 6-9).Not everyone has a static and can play 40 hours a week.
I play about 3-5 hours on Monday, rest of the day maybe 1-2 hours(sometimes don't even log in).
Im not a Hardcore gamer, maybe according to FFXIV standards, i might be, even tho i try not to lol.
Goodbye, Final Fantasy...
When the ilvl is bumped up to 110 and i90 (which drops in coil and the extreme primals) will be as easy as grinding for myth (same as Phil tomes), then yes, all of that content is old, entry level content. Should obtaining an i90 primal weapon be difficult when you can Zenith your relic in a day after 2.2? You have all of those things on farm.. in pugs. Good for you. Personally, I've been banging my head against titan Ex for a month because farm groups won't let you in unless you've beaten it (they'll queue for Ifrit first) and learning groups are full of people that die quickly and leave the group just as fast.
Again, bring on the echo buff I say. If it helps more groups clear the content, then I'm all for it. Especially when the content is going to be 20 ilvls below the top now (All of your awesome Myth and Coil gear is now the equivalent of Darklight... the shame!).


I know.. i just got few of my allagan for my PLD as well....
I hope they at least make ti so we can convert or trade them in.... i still have my DL from 6 months ago hoping i can get reimbursed...
Goodbye, Final Fantasy...
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