Crafting Needs a Place in Endgame Raiding

[Galactimus]

I'm sure there are others just like him on my server and other servers... So once more no Ty. Slavery is forbidden and no longer acceptable in our world.

As much as I'd like to enslave Excalibur under "Cult Clive" and feed on slave Aether at my whim.. I fear you are correct. Crafted gear should never be the same ilevel as other "best in slot" gear. Even if the crafted gear costs millions of gil and a week to make. All of our content revolves around "gear progression" and item level. Being able to immediately jump to the very end of that progression with a lump of gil is just silly. Especially when you drag RMT into the mix.

[NeoAmon]

As much as I'd like to enslave Excalibur under "Cult Clive" and feed on slave Aether at my whim.. I fear you are correct. Crafted gear should never be the same ilevel as other "best in slot" gear. Even if the crafted gear costs millions of gil and a week to make. All of our content revolves around "gear progression" and item level. Being able to immediately jump to the very end of that progression with a lump of gil is just silly. Especially when you drag RMT into the mix.

Haha, sorry I deleted the post in respect to his privacy as we are no longer on talking terms. He got mad at me long time ago and we black listed each other's .

Just thought I should inform you why I deleted the post .

[Versiroth]

It does. It's called Culinary. Otherwise, no thanks. I hated that in WOW, you were forced to gem/enchant all of your gear to be accepted into groups. In this game, people with all 50's have too many sets of armor to be forced to spend all of their gil on materia, etc for a very small (but mandatory) stat boost.

[Kallera]

It does. It's called Culinary. Otherwise, no thanks. I hated that in WOW, you were forced to gem/enchant all of your gear to be accepted into groups. In this game, people with all 50's have too many sets of armor to be forced to spend all of their gil on materia, etc for a very small (but mandatory) stat boost.

But you are not actually getting rid of the practice. Now people are not inviting you because you haven't got the relic +1, break blade or a certain ilvl.

All you have done is change the excuse.

And expensive doesn't always mean greedy. People cannot fully control how many dice rolls it took to get the items, the materia, the HQ, the melds, and a selling price that will get them a buyer in a timely fashion.

Players didn't like the low chance of getting certain gear in prior MMOs, now some are barred from ingenuity of making their own gear altogether, while endgame is funnelled into one playstyle one brand of content. How is that not greed and selfishness? How can one make a sense of community, much less a economy, out of so many restrictions?

[Versiroth]

But you are not actually getting rid of the practice. Now people are not inviting you because you haven't got the relic +1, break blade or a certain ilvl.

All you have done is change the excuse.

And expensive doesn't always mean greedy. People cannot fully control how many dice rolls it took to get the items, the materia, the HQ, the melds, and a selling price that will get them a buyer in a timely fashion.

Players didn't like the low chance of getting certain gear in prior MMOs, now some are barred from ingenuity of making their own gear altogether, while endgame is funnelled into one playstyle one brand of content. How is that not greed and selfishness? How can one make a sense of community, much less a economy, out of so many restrictions?

Having to work for a Relic + 1 is completely different than having to pay hundreds of thousands of gil for 3-5 pieces of Materia to fill out every slot in every piece of armor you have. Also, Community =/= you making tons of gil off other players. The fact is, making top level gear would ruin the game. You could RMT your way to the top without working for it at all (and people WOULD do this). Also, adding Materia or other systems like Materia to end game would do nothing but cause more people to be excluded from content. And like with top level crafted gear, it would also help RMT to thrive even more as people would just pay real money to avoid the then mandatory gil grind.

[TheUltimate3]

Having to work for a Relic + 1 is completely different than having to pay hundreds of thousands of gil for 3-5 pieces of Materia to fill out every slot in every piece of armor you have. Also, Community =/= you making tons of gil off other players. The fact is, making top level gear would ruin the game. You could RMT your way to the top without working for it at all (and people WOULD do this). Also, adding Materia or other systems like Materia to end game would do nothing but cause more people to be excluded from content. And like with top level crafted gear, it would also help RMT to thrive even more as people would just pay real money to avoid the then mandatory gil grind.

I could RMT my way to get a lot of gil and then spend that gil on a merc FC to carry me through end game. Result: I still paid my way to the top.

People aren't even asking to make top end stuff, they just want the stuff they can make to actual matter and be relevant.

[Versiroth]

I could RMT my way to get a lot of gil and then spend that gil on a merc FC to carry me through end game. Result: I still paid my way to the top.

People aren't even asking to make top end stuff, they just want the stuff they can make to actual matter and be relevant.

You could pay for 10 runs of Coil (10 weeks) and never get a single drop. Heck, I've only gotten one piece of tank loot in the last 5 weeks doing Coil. There's the difference right there. If you could craft 110 gear, then I could RMT the gil, pay you, and then... I don't know... quit? I mean, I already have the best gear in the game.

As is, they give you entry level crafting gear (i70 before and soon to be i90), which is good enough. Your craftable gear gives people options. Stop charging 3 to 400K (what ilvl 70 was before 2.1) per piece and maybe more people will take your option over grinding myth for alts.