Summoner Changes

[jars]

the only thing I use titan for is treasure maps. I wish there was more to do with it but there really isn't.

[Tharian]

According to the story we have the crystals and enough aether to summon the full fledged primal. Also the pet system is poorly designed as of now we are a dot job with pets in the background when it should be the other way around where Summoners focus on buffing their pets to increase their damage and casting dots should take a back seat.

First off, it takes more than simply Crystals and Aether to summon a Primal.

In order to summon a Primal you need at least a metric ton of Crystalized Aether. (I am guessing here, but that is a likely figure due to the mention of the Amalj'aa gathering several caravans of the stuff).

Second you need a sizable number of victims to become Tempered by the Primal in question, otherwise the Primal will be unable to sustain itself for long enough to stay on the material plane as those Crystals will not suffice for very long. It needs a continuous feed of Aether.

[Tharian]

Third you need a person who has been tainted by the Ascian's teachings sufficiently enough to be able to actually summon the beast in the first place. Otherwise you won't be able to summon it to begin with.

Point is, a Summoner who never learned the Ascian's Ritual for summoning a Primal is not going to be able to do it, and the number of Crystals we have access to is not sufficient to even attract a Primals attention. Nor is there any reason why we would bother with Tempering countless individuals as we are heroes not villains.

[EdenArchangel]

Poor Ifrit and Titan need to be bumped up to Garuda -egi's level.

Creative fun time... Note: quickly came up with ideas because it's entertaining. All numbers are hypothetical.
Pets need actual attacks to be controlled, not just auto attack, stun, and useless crap.

Titan needs to get out of a useless "endgame" tank role; works fine solo but needs some versatility
If Titan is targeted by an enemy, passive ability Jagged Defender reflects 5% of damage and slows the enemy 5%
Uh, Titan gets Earthen Ward.. a 5% of max hp stoneskin party aoe, each party member encased in his stoneskin gives Titan-egi itself a 10% damage bonus
Directed Shockwave - heavy single target damage that decreases enmity for all party members except the one being targeted, that targeted member get a short defense boost
Tremors - ground targetable aoe similar to primal Titan's move, except small damage over time for 5 seconds for enemies inside, then explodes for reasonable damage

Ifrit gets Blazing Speed... 2% party speed aoe, (only affects melee members (mnk/drg/war/pld)) party members with this buff that attack an enemy inflict a burning damage over time effect, which Ifrit exploits to increase his own attack speed by up to 33%
Corona - with this 30s buff up, ifrit takes 25% less damage and converts damage taken by Ifrit and any party members into attack speed for Ifrit
Meteor Blaze - heavy single target damage on a cooldown, cooldown time decreases more with more Blazing Speed affected melee party members
Thermal Intensity - Heavy aoe damage centered on Ifrit, farther targets take less damage

Garuda's Quickening Breeze - caster and ranged spell/skill speed and movement speed buff (only affects mages spells and bards skills)
Sudden Tornadoes - heavy single targets dps, three strikes, third strike gets a critical hit, more damage when used behind target (so garuda may actually have to move her butt!)
Gusting Tempest - Bane radius passively increased, same number affected

...Garuda loses contagion, should be an arcanist/summoner job ability

Well there goes 5 min of my life.

Hopefully summons will be the focus of summoner, one day. :'(

[Akiza]

Third you need a person who has been tainted by the Ascian's teachings sufficiently enough to be able to actually summon the beast in the first place. Otherwise you won't be able to summon it to begin with.

Point is, a Summoner who never learned the Ascian's Ritual for summoning a Primal is not going to be able to do it, and the number of Crystals we have access to is not sufficient to even attract a Primals attention. Nor is there any reason why we would bother with Tempering countless individuals as we are heroes not villains.

There are races other than the Ascians that know how to Summon Primals ie the Allagan empire secondly I stated we have enough aether and crystals from the story to summon the primal for 30s. Also according to lore a single Allagan Summoner had the power to summon the Primals and bind them to their will and since we are resurrected Allagan Summoner's can get an ability to subjugate the Primals

[Akiza]

They should add more pet buffs to the Summoner and add more abilities to the Egis. Considering the Egis have 8 slots on the pet bar they should add 4 more pet abilities to add diversity to the Egis. Also the Egis should be redesigned to look like smaller versions of their parent primal because right now they look worse then Pokemon and Carbuncle and Topaz look way more detailed.

[Bombast]

There are races other than the Ascians that know how to Summon Primals ie the Alligan empire secondly I stated we have enough aether and crystals from the story to summon the primal for 30s. Beside according to the story Summoner's of old we're able to summon the primal as well as bind it's essence to its will.

Its true that you don't need to be corrupted by the Ascians to summon primals (They just know the 'best' way to do so). However, we don't have any crystals beside's the primal crystal drops, which you can't actually use because they need to stay intact for the story. Also, there is, to my knowledge, no examples of Summoner's being able to bring forth Primals by themselves. The story implies that Summoners of old could group together to summon full fledged primals, but they did so exactly like the Beast Tribes do - By collecting massive amounts of crystals (Think 50 dump trucks, not what you can fit in your backpack) and through distributive summoning (More Summoners then you can actually fit into a party).

If you have lore proof to the contrary, please provide it. Otherwise, you're just making things up.

They should add more pet buffs to the Summoner and add more abilities to the Egis. Considering the Egis have 8 slots on the pet bar they should add 4 more pet abilities to add diversity to the Egis. Also the Egis should be redesigned to look like smaller versions of their parent primal because right now they look worse then Pokemon and Carbuncle and Topaz look way more detailed.

Buffing the pet and nerfing the Summoner is something we don't want. Unless you can provide balancing reasons to do so, this is just a personal wish that'll never happen.

As for the design, no. The Egis are 'Essence of Primal' (Which is exactly what they look like), not mini Primals. Carbuncles look more detailed because it is what it is - a very specific, designed to the detail construct.

[Tharian]

Okay, seriously, we may be "resurrected" Allagan Summoners, but the fact remains that we are significantly weaker than the original Allagan Summoners. For reference, we exist in a world nearly a millennia (possibly longer) after the original Allagan Empire fell. In fact the only organization currently in existence on Eorzea that we know can be certain was actually contemporary with the Allagan Empire is in fact the Ascians themselves. The only reason I say this is because their leader claimed to have been hoping he lived long enough to see Bahamut rise again. It seemed to be a surprise to virtually everyone else on the continent of Eorzea (including the Garleans who merely thought they were going to crash the moon into the planet) that Bahamut actually resided inside the moon to begin with. It's actually somewhat amazing the Scions were able to seal the damned beast, meaning that the Sharlyan's were probably also contemporary with the Allagan Empire.

[Tharian]

Simply put, the original Allagan Empire existed in a much more Aether Rich world seeing as how it had not suffered through nearly as many cataclysms as the one we now reside within. The Allagan Summoners didn't so much summon Primals as they did imprison them so that they could use their essences after imprisoning them for their own Summonings. In fact based on what is known of the Allagan Empire, the Summoners of that period were probably facing a crisis of various free-roaming Primals that had naturally come into existence of their own accord instead of by being summoned. It actually makes a great deal of sense that the very first Primals to exist were Roaming Primals much like Odin currently is.

[Akiza]

Its true that you don't need to be corrupted by the Ascians to summon primals (They just know the 'best' way to do so). However, we don't have any crystals beside's the primal crystal drops, which you can't actually use because they need to stay intact for the story. Also, there is, to my knowledge, no examples of Summoner's being able to bring forth Primals by themselves. The story implies that Summoners of old could group together to summon full fledged primals, but they did so exactly like the Beast Tribes do - By collecting massive amounts of crystals (Think 50 dump trucks, not what you can fit in your backpack) and through distributive summoning (More Summoners then you can actually fit into a party).

Summoner's of old according to Final Fantasy XIV Wiki had immeasurable power and could summon Primals single handedly. We are the resurrected Allagan Summoner's but we lost a lot of our knowledge