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    Hiroradius's Avatar
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    Radius Braveheart
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    Gilgamesh
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    This isn't Final Fantasy 11 people. Stop expecting the jobs, classes, abilities, and everything to be like Final Fantasy 11.

    It is a different lore, different design, different concept.

    And summoner is not an afflication warlock.. It is a non-elemental caster. And following the spells final fantasy uses, they just happen to be damage over time spells.
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    Mimiji Miji
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiroradius View Post
    And summoner is not an afflication warlock.. It is a non-elemental caster. And following the spells final fantasy uses, they just happen to be damage over time spells.
    That's not the same thing? >w>
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    Player Versiroth's Avatar
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    Kraiden Draxenian
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    Diabolos
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    Marauder Lv 50
    I wish they'd let us keep out Carbuncles as pets and make the primals abilities instead. When you cast Contagion, for instance, Garuda apepars and casts it and then disappears, etc. Summoners would still remain a pet class, but instead of being forced to use one summons all the time, every fight would end up featuring all of them. Make Enkindle an AOE where all three appear and combine for one big move.
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    I'zizi Pi
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    Faerie
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    Arcanist Lv 65
    I would rather see bouncy little carbuncle all of the time than a floating egi or primal filling up my camera view. An optional cosmetic ability to change which pet you'd prefer would be great.
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    Player Akiza's Avatar
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    Rhel Eryut
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    Summoner Lv 90
    According to the story we have the crystals and enough aether to summon the full fledged primal. Also the pet system is poorly designed as of now we are a dot job with pets in the background when it should be the other way around where Summoners focus on buffing their pets to increase their damage and casting dots should take a back seat.
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    Ayukawa Madoka
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    According to the story we have the crystals and enough aether to summon the full fledged primal.
    No, we don't. The beast tribes, after gathering tons and tons of crystals, tempering large amounts of their race and others and several other things were able to. You literally have no idea what you're talking about. Just play another class already
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    Kikyo Cledwin
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    According to the story we have the crystals and enough aether to summon the full fledged primal. Also the pet system is poorly designed as of now we are a dot job with pets in the background when it should be the other way around where Summoners focus on buffing their pets to increase their damage and casting dots should take a back seat.
    First off, it takes more than simply Crystals and Aether to summon a Primal.

    In order to summon a Primal you need at least a metric ton of Crystalized Aether. (I am guessing here, but that is a likely figure due to the mention of the Amalj'aa gathering several caravans of the stuff).

    Second you need a sizable number of victims to become Tempered by the Primal in question, otherwise the Primal will be unable to sustain itself for long enough to stay on the material plane as those Crystals will not suffice for very long. It needs a continuous feed of Aether.
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    Juni Esura
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    Sargatanas
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    the only thing I use titan for is treasure maps. I wish there was more to do with it but there really isn't.
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    Third you need a person who has been tainted by the Ascian's teachings sufficiently enough to be able to actually summon the beast in the first place. Otherwise you won't be able to summon it to begin with.

    Point is, a Summoner who never learned the Ascian's Ritual for summoning a Primal is not going to be able to do it, and the number of Crystals we have access to is not sufficient to even attract a Primals attention. Nor is there any reason why we would bother with Tempering countless individuals as we are heroes not villains.
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    Player Akiza's Avatar
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    Rhel Eryut
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tharian View Post
    Third you need a person who has been tainted by the Ascian's teachings sufficiently enough to be able to actually summon the beast in the first place. Otherwise you won't be able to summon it to begin with.

    Point is, a Summoner who never learned the Ascian's Ritual for summoning a Primal is not going to be able to do it, and the number of Crystals we have access to is not sufficient to even attract a Primals attention. Nor is there any reason why we would bother with Tempering countless individuals as we are heroes not villains.
    There are races other than the Ascians that know how to Summon Primals ie the Allagan empire secondly I stated we have enough aether and crystals from the story to summon the primal for 30s. Also according to lore a single Allagan Summoner had the power to summon the Primals and bind them to their will and since we are resurrected Allagan Summoner's can get an ability to subjugate the Primals
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    Last edited by Akiza; 03-23-2014 at 12:58 AM.

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