Summoner Changes

[Akiza]

I enjoy the Summoner Job since it's the 1st time that the Summoner is it's own job but it does need some changes
-Summoner's get the ability to summon the Primals with a instant recast time.
-The Primal drains the Summoner's MP with each attack when the player is out of MP they automatically use there signature attack and leave.
-Once the player activates the Primal's signature attack the Primal leaves.

With these suggestion it won't make Summoner's OP because of MP cost and damage loss from overuse of summoning Primals

[Maku]

So pretty much you want a buffed version for the FFXI Summoner? I loved the FFXI version a LOT more but the FFXIV summer is just different and we all need to try and get over that.

[Sheva]

Frankly the only issue I have is the low number of summons we have access to. Not to mention we will have to wait for the first expansion to get any more summons even though we are about to beat leviathan in 2.2. Of course it makes sense when you realize Summoner is not a class but a job, it makes sense that it would be only half of what it should be.

[Mimilu]

Frankly the only issue I have is the low number of summons we have access to. Not to mention we will have to wait for the first expansion to get any more summons even though we are about to beat leviathan in 2.2. Of course it makes sense when you realize Summoner is not a class but a job, it makes sense that it would be only half of what it should be.

I don't think the lack of number would be as bad if the summons/egis actually did something other then spam normal attacks. The only reason SMNs have for controlling their pets is to use Garuda's Contagion and to prevent Ifrit from spamming his stun.

[Madoka]

Why did you make another thread?

[Akiza]

Why did you make another thread?

This thread is about Summoner's leading up to gaining the ability to summon the Primals rather than a complete class overhaul.

[Madoka]

This thread is about Summoner's leading up to gaining the ability to summon the Primals rather than a complete class overhaul.

It's basically the same thing.

A single human doesn't have the Aether to support a primal for any period of time, no matter how short. I don't expect them to break lore for your fantasy

[Tharian]

It's basically the same thing.

A single human doesn't have the Aether to support a primal for any period of time, no matter how short. I don't expect them to break lore for your fantasy

That isn't the only reason.

In Final Fantasy XI, an Eidolon was basically a very powerful spirit being. Though technically a wild entity, that could cause great amounts of devastation if left to its own devices, with the exception of Bahamut, Odin, and Diabolos, they were largely benevolent creatures.

Primals in FFXIV are essentially vengeful gods of destruction. Nothing more and nothing less. The tempering process makes anyone who would summon them into their slaves. The only reason the player is immune to that is because of the Echo.

[Enkidoh]

That isn't the only reason.

In Final Fantasy XI, an Eidolon was basically a very powerful spirit being. Though technically a wild entity, that could cause great amounts of devastation if left to its own devices, with the exception of Bahamut, Odin, and Diabolos, they were largely benevolent creatures.

Primals in FFXIV are essentially vengeful gods of destruction. Nothing more and nothing less. The tempering process makes anyone who would summon them into their slaves. The only reason the player is immune to that is because of the Echo.

Summon monsters in FFXI were called Avatars, not 'eidolons' (which were the summons in FFIX and XIII). But you're right about everything else.

[Akiza]

It's basically the same thing.

A single human doesn't have the Aether to support a primal for any period of time, no matter how short. I don't expect them to break lore for your fantasy

I'm pretty sure a single person has enough aether to support a primal for at least 30s not as a permanent pet since no where on my post I said I want Primals as a permanent pet. Since the Primals are aetheric beings all it would take is giving more Aether to the Egi an it will become the corresponding Primal