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    Player Akiza's Avatar
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    Rhel Eryut
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    Summoner Lv 90

    Summoner Changes

    I enjoy the Summoner Job since it's the 1st time that the Summoner is it's own job but it does need some changes
    -Summoner's get the ability to summon the Primals with a instant recast time.
    -The Primal drains the Summoner's MP with each attack when the player is out of MP they automatically use there signature attack and leave.
    -Once the player activates the Primal's signature attack the Primal leaves.

    With these suggestion it won't make Summoner's OP because of MP cost and damage loss from overuse of summoning Primals
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    Last edited by Akiza; 03-17-2014 at 11:00 AM.

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    Maku Haikasu
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    So pretty much you want a buffed version for the FFXI Summoner? I loved the FFXI version a LOT more but the FFXIV summer is just different and we all need to try and get over that.
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    Sheva Darklight
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Frankly the only issue I have is the low number of summons we have access to. Not to mention we will have to wait for the first expansion to get any more summons even though we are about to beat leviathan in 2.2. Of course it makes sense when you realize Summoner is not a class but a job, it makes sense that it would be only half of what it should be.
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    Ayukawa Madoka
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    Why did you make another thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheva View Post
    Frankly the only issue I have is the low number of summons we have access to. Not to mention we will have to wait for the first expansion to get any more summons even though we are about to beat leviathan in 2.2. Of course it makes sense when you realize Summoner is not a class but a job, it makes sense that it would be only half of what it should be.
    I don't think the lack of number would be as bad if the summons/egis actually did something other then spam normal attacks. The only reason SMNs have for controlling their pets is to use Garuda's Contagion and to prevent Ifrit from spamming his stun.
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    Ryuko Kanzeon
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    I really wonder if I'm alone in this... but...

    I played the FFXI Summoner, and I loved the FFXI Summoner. It was my favorite job.

    I now play the FFXIV Summoner, and I love the FFXIV Summoner. It is my favorite job.

    They're two very different jobs but with respect to both the game lore and the overall functionality of the games, they make sense in their own way.

    A long time ago, it was mentioned by the dev team that Free Companies would have the ability to 'capture' roaming primals to use at their whim. These primals would have a timer and once used, would disappear back to the world for some other FC to find and capture. This obviously hasn't been implemented or spoken about in a while... but I always hoped that the person needed to actually call upon these temporary primals once captured would be a summoner. Maybe they'd have to 'initiate' the summoning, similar to the way limit breaks are used (except this is a one time use). It's unlikely, as they don't want to give one job an advantage other jobs don't have, but... that's always been my little dream.
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    Player Akiza's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madoka View Post
    Why did you make another thread?
    This thread is about Summoner's leading up to gaining the ability to summon the Primals rather than a complete class overhaul.
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    Shamirah Zullya
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    The primals will be summoned by FC not SMN so... no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    This thread is about Summoner's leading up to gaining the ability to summon the Primals rather than a complete class overhaul.
    It's basically the same thing.

    A single human doesn't have the Aether to support a primal for any period of time, no matter how short. I don't expect them to break lore for your fantasy
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    Ardan Lauriers
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    Just watch. Some highly intelligent individual will make another thread why SMN sucks, should be changed or my personal favorite: bitching about Egi size.
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