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  1. #111
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    Shirai's Avatar
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    Shirai N'yankoro
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    Sargatanas
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    Fisher Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Nicobo View Post
    rumor says that MNK gears have higher drop rate... maybe it's the rewarding if it's true...^^;
    Absolutely true, but only on occasions where the monkey in need of the gear is not arround to claim it or already owns it from that one run 10 weeks earlier.
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    Last edited by Shirai; 03-20-2014 at 07:24 PM.
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  2. #112
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Only thing I feel Monks need is an increased Greased Lightning time (15-18s), and that's about it. Other than that I feel Monks do incredibly well in the melee DPS department IMO.
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  3. #113
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    PenutButter's Avatar
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    Peanut Little
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    I have no idea where this crazy idea that MNK have low AoE damage came from, its insane. During Perfect Balance, Monk IS the highest AoE damage with the possible exception of WHM. Even without it MNK does, I would argue, the highest non-BLM/WHM AoE damage even if it is a bit expensive.

    MNK is fine the way it is, if DRG don't benefit BRDs, there would be no reason to bring a DRG. Though, since you don't really need optimization in this game, it doesn't really matter what you bring for damage.

    And MNK IS the single target DPS king; just cuz your MNK isn't due to you sucking don't mean MNK isn't.
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  4. #114
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    PenutButter's Avatar
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    Peanut Little
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by bokchoykn View Post
    -At equivalent ability and gear, I find that Monk does more damage than Dragoon. Monk+Bard does roughly equal damage to Dragoon+Bard. Dragoon+Bard+Bard does more damage than Monk+Bard+Bard. This obviously varies depending on the encounter, since the two classes thrive under different conditions.
    DRG + MNK + BRD does more damage than DRG + BRD + BRD and you never need more than 1 BRD. Never. Heck, there are only a few cases where you NEED BRD and that is Turn 2 ADS. That being said, optimally I would go MNK + MNK + DRG or MNK + MNK + MNK, cuz if we're max/mining, everyone knows what they're doing and you should NEVER need ballad in most fights.

    Dunno about MNK + BRD doing same damage as DRG + BRD cuz I haven't test it myself and I don't believe what other people say. I don't expect them to believe what I say either but we say it anyways.
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  5. #115
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    Viridiana's Avatar
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    Aria Placida
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    Lamia
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    Ninja Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by PenutButter View Post
    Heck, there are only a few cases where you NEED BRD and that is Turn 2 ADS.
    We aren't even needed then, unless you're doing enrage method and need the MP.
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  6. #116
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    Alcyon Eldara
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    Moogle
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by PenutButter View Post
    DRG + MNK + BRD does more damage than DRG + BRD + BRD and you never need more than 1 BRD. Never. Heck, there are only a few cases where you NEED BRD and that is Turn 2 ADS. That being said, optimally I would go MNK + MNK + DRG or MNK + MNK + MNK, cuz if we're max/mining, everyone knows what they're doing and you should NEVER need ballad in most fights.

    Dunno about MNK + BRD doing same damage as DRG + BRD cuz I haven't test it myself and I don't believe what other people say. I don't expect them to believe what I say either but we say it anyways.
    Good luck against ADS (no enrage method) with 3 melees + 2 Tanks. Also, Twin could be fun too, even if having 3 melees isn't so bad.
    Seriously, if you were really min)/maxing, you'd NEVER, I said NEVER, take THREE players with the same class.
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  7. #117
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    ZzPixie's Avatar
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    Damaru Damasu
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 60
    I cant wait for the day monk GCD reaches sub 1.0 then ask me if the class is rewarding enough.
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  8. #118
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    Gooner_iBluAirJGR's Avatar
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    Rosenthal Hogire
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    Gilgamesh
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by T1M0N View Post
    I've got both class lvl 90(well..almost for the monk just miss the helmet) and i can tell it doesn't matter which one is the best beetween MNK and DRG.They're both pretty similar in term of damage. . .
    Ofc,DRG can use his Disenbowel for the BRD and himself but seriously it's not like it will make a difference beetween the wipe and the victory.
    Exactly.
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  9. #119
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    Instrumentality's Avatar
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    Eureka Evergarden
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by PenutButter View Post
    During Perfect Balance, Monk IS the highest AoE damage with the possible exception of WHM.
    lol

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    My life while tanking is an existential hell from which there is no escape.

  10. #120
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    NoctisUmbra's Avatar
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    Noctis Umbra
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    Excalibur
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by PenutButter View Post
    During Perfect Balance, Monk IS the highest AoE damage with the possible exception of WHM. Even without it MNK does, I would argue, the highest non-BLM/WHM AoE damage even if it is a bit expensive.
    lmao

    Wow... there is so much wrong with this that... I don't even know where to begin.

    No little Peanut. No.
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