Parsers

[LoganBGone]

Competent party leaders know when to account mechanics for a dip in dps. Come back later with a valid argument.

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My post has nothing to do with "competent party leaders" it has to do with Parser users. A "competent party leader" does not need to reply on a Parser. IF they do then they are not really competent.

[KyroeFelix]

My post has nothing to do with "competent party leaders" it has to do with Parser users. A "competent party leader" does not need to reply on a Parser. IF they do then they are not really competent.

I know plenty of people who use a parser and understand simple facts about the game that prevent people from performing "max dps". No one is going to hold a dps player responsible for drops in damage during a conflag spike or if they need to kite something like in T1. Like I said, come back with a valid argument.

[LoganBGone]

I know plenty of people who use a parser and understand simple facts about the game that prevent people from performing "max dps". Like I said, come back with a valid argument.

So..because "you" know plenty of people that use it that way. I guess your statement is valid enough to say the whole community is like this...Sorry it does not work that way. Just because u know some people that use it, as you say. Does not mean that there aren't people who use it how I say. And as I said before, those people you know obviously don't understand stand that much of the game if they have to use a third party program to tell them if someone is doing max Dps. When im a party leader I do not need a program to tell if someone is doing their job. If the person keeps dying then I will help them on how to avoid things. As long as the job gets done then u are playing properly. I can look at their character to see if they are actually playing or just spamming 2 moves.

[KyroeFelix]

I can look at their character to see if they are actually playing or just spamming 2 moves.

So because you watch someone pop all their cooldowns and use all of their physical damage skills, that means they are playing properly and contributing sufficiently to the damage pool? Not at all. I get the argument that if the job gets done, it's a good day. But if someone can improve and you have a tool to help you show them, why wouldn't you use it? THAT is what most groups running a parse do with the information.

And as I said before, those people you know obviously don't understand stand that much of the game if they have to use a third party program to tell them if someone is doing max Dps.

Using a parse to pull information doesn't mean you don't understand the game. That's like telling someone who uses a graphing calculator they don't understand graphing because they didn't do it by hand.

To the whole "you can see it without a parser bit".. I bet you can.. but with Twintania, Titan, Garuda.. I'm more paying attention to the things I'm tanking, the boss's rotation, and the things I'm dodging than I am a specific person to see if maybe the right buffs aren't flashing up on them. It's a bit ridiculous to expect people to pay attention to all a boss's mechanics, plus track 7 other people in the party (in which you'd also have to know the correct rotations for every class by heart to make sure they're doing it right). But somehow expecting a person to do that is fine, but expecting someone to hold their dps for fights that do have dps checks isn't?

Also, SO MUCH THIS^^^^

[Casper]

So..because "you" know plenty of people that use it that way. I guess your statement is valid enough to say the whole community is like this...Sorry it does not work that way. Just because u know some people that use it, as you say. Does not mean that there aren't people who use it how I say. And as I said before, those people you know obviously don't understand stand that much of the game if they have to use a third party program to tell them if someone is doing max Dps. When im a party leader I do not need a program to tell if someone is doing their job. If the person keeps dying then I will help them on how to avoid things. As long as the job gets done then u are playing properly. I can look at their character to see if they are actually playing or just spamming 2 moves.

You are so full of shit.

What you are saying is just plain not true. First of all "not dieing" is nowhere near good enough. Good luck beating enrage timers if you do that, be it in garuda ex (sister phases), titan ex (hard enrage), ifrit ex (nails), or twintania (conflag, snakes, hard enrage). It is also pretty hard to tell who is the slacker without any help, and shouting on all dps "goddammit up your deeps !" is not helping. A parser can help analyze the rotations, etc. It also allow to see who is using ballad etc. Obviously you have to be smart about how you use it, like any tool.

Another point: melee looking bad on parse must be a joke. Except on garuda, good melee are going to knock you out of your socks and make your blm especially looks like total noobs on a parse.

Anyway. You simply have absolutely zero idea of what you are talking about.