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    I had something similar happen to be after launch. Was doing Titan for Relic quest and someone was running a parser, after the 1st wipe I got called out for having low DPS. The guy was rude about it, But a few people stepped in and said that it was low because I kept getting Gaoled.

    Parsers are both good and bad, As long as people use them properly. Parsing your friends/FC/Static and trying to help out is fine, But doing it in a PUG and calling people out and being rude about it isn't.
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    I personally don't use parsers but to those that do...

    What's the first rule of parse club?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    I personally don't use parsers but to those that do...

    What's the first rule of parse club?
    What club? I know nothing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Icehunter View Post
    What club? I know nothing!
    Who are you? :P
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    There are a lot of DRGs out there who do not use heavy thrust then complain about tanks beating them in damage, because literately they only push 3 buttons which is the full thrust combo. I noticed this in CT last night. Was looking through the log and noticed they never use heavy thrust and just do the full thrust combo. When did this become a thing? People just don't know how to play drg properly or they just don't care?

    With DRG is the rotation is complicated if you aren't doing it correctly a tank will beat you in damage by a fairly large amount too. Keep heavy thrust up, keep both dots on the mob, weaving in jumps between combos, making sure to do the disembowel/chaostrust combo when those dots aren't up.
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    I don't even find that remotely rude.

    I say things far worst even when everyone is doing great.
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    So according to most people in this thread, it seems that people doing bad dps is okay.

    Me as a tank it is quite obvious when I am being a bad tank I.E. positioning, not holding aggro, getting dps killed with cleaves, not switching on stacks, etc.

    But it's completely okay for DPS to not meet dps checks in fights I.E. EX Titan Heart and post heart(had a group that could dodge literally everything and not get passed the final enrage), almost all of Twin, Turn 4, Ifrit EX Nails, Garudas Sisters.

    I don't see how this is fair to me or the Healers(which you can really tell when there are bad heals) in fact. I'm going to assume that most of you who say "Oh but were still progressing isnt that okay" have not cleared anything further than HM Ifrit. I'm sorry to say this, but it's not okay to carry people through content so they can later join an instance they are not ready for, wipe the group, have an random "elitest" yell at them. Then they come on the forum and complain the community is "Toxic" while previously they should have been able to parse ATLEAST more than the tank before queing into the instance.

    So this carebare of a community supposodly isnt allowed to bring up the word "Parse" in game because it "offends" people, people seeming to be insecure about thier dps, isnt that the point of being dps? To see big numbers fly accross the board, wouldn't it be great to see BIGGER numbers fly accross the board simply by learning how to do your rotations correctly? So when people do bad dps I should kick them out of the party without explanation and not give them a chance to step up their dps or quickly give them tips or pointers on how their rotations should be laid out? Alright I get it, I'll just randomly kick dps out of my party that dont perform.
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    Last edited by Provoke; 03-16-2014 at 06:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Provoke View Post
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    kicking because they don't play good enough is abuse of the system but ok.

    secondly it's already been stated if you need a parser to notice someone isn't dpsing as good as someone else obviously they are dpsing pretty well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    kicking because they don't play good enough is abuse of the system but ok.

    secondly it's already been stated if you need a parser to notice someone isn't dpsing as good as someone else obviously they are dpsing pretty well.
    Wow, missing the entire point to parsing in general heres an example.

    If you are a bard on Titan Extreme and am doing lower dps then Me as a Tank, THERE IS A PROBLEM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Provoke View Post
    Wow, missing the entire point to parsing in general heres an example.

    If you are a bard on Titan Extreme and am doing lower dps then Me as a Tank, THERE IS A PROBLEM.
    not missing the point at all how would you need a parser to see that? quite clearly you can see they are doing alot wrong. no need for a parser.
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