Parsers

[HeroSamson]

Tashigi its not up to you who decides if they have fun or not this is the whole point. They pay monthly doesn't matter if they are bad players then help them out or leave the party yourself.

If you say why should you leave when they suck, easy because you have a problem with it clearly they don't meet your standards, so you leave you shouldn't even have the right to choose who stays or goes.

I see it all the time, same excuse is used people saying why don't you help explain fight instead of ragging on them, they say I have enough as it is to worry about myself, I think to myself but they have enough time to parser someone else but don't have enough time to explain the fight. just excuses.

[Amberion]

I see it all the time, same excuse is used people saying why don't you help explain fight instead of ragging on them, they say I have enough as it is to worry about myself, I think to myself but they have enough time to parser someone else but don't have enough time to explain the fight. just excuses.

Why should good players teach people who don't want to learn? If they had wanted to learn, they would have done so themselves. Rotations and such are easy to find for anyone who actually wants to.

I think to myself but they have enough time to parser someone else but don't have enough time to explain the fight. just excuses.

A parser takes 5 sec to start. And can be done before even entering a fight/instance. After it's started, it runs in the background, no work involved.

And as for raging on them... Never personally seen that happen, my guess is that it don't happen that much. Most of the time it's just a statement that their DPS is to low/bad.

[alhandra]

Tashigi its not up to you who decides if they have fun or not this is the whole point. They pay monthly doesn't matter if they are bad players then help them out or leave the party yourself.

the only time this argument would hold any weight is in the duty finder. if i create a group, ask for experienced players, then get one that isnt experienced and holds the rest of the group back, i am not going to be the one leaving. i will ask them to step it up, if they dont, i will kick them. some people have fun holding hands and singing koombaya while getting their face pummeled by trivial content. personally i have more fun winning, and winning consistently.

[Tashigi]

the only time this argument would hold any weight is in the duty finder. if i create a group, ask for experienced players, then get one that isnt experienced and holds the rest of the group back, i am not going to be the one leaving. i will ask them to step it up, if they dont, i will kick them. some people have fun holding hands and singing koombaya while getting their face pummeled by trivial content. personally i have more fun winning, and winning consistently.

Basically, this.
I am cool with people grouping and doing their own thing and maybe doing whatever they want in the DF. But if people are working towards winning, there's no room for slacking.
If I join a group, I go by whatever rules that group has and whatever the leader/group asks of me. If they feel I am not contributing, I bow out.

[Arkghyom]

As long as people don't harass other players using parsers, I guess it's fine.

[Recaldy]

First person to cry parser wins.

[HeroSamson]

How do you know they don't want to learn?

I don't know about you but I used to help people out on Bismarck FFXI all the time, even if I finished what I had done explaining is not a problem I am not lazy, I don't need programs either to check how well I do or others, if we lose a few times no big deal pick yourself up fight again till we win if they quit let them at least they didn't get kicked.

[Zell1226]

Look, if someone calls you out on having low DPS, why would you cry about it on the forums? The world isn't your personal hugbox. "Oh well maybe if they offered constructive criticism it would be ok!". What if the guy calling you out on your low DPS doesn't play your job? How is he gonna help you? You have to first help yourself, by researching your damn class before you ruin it for everybody else. It's sad when I once wiped to turn 4 in a PUG for eternity before I finally got fed up with the awful tanks and bad dps and told them skill by skill, how to accomplish turn 4. And we won that same run. Though I shouldn't have had to do that, especially considering everyone there claimed they were "experienced". They did nothing but waste their own, and my time. Don't be one of those people. If someone says you parse low, they're being blunt and honest. So fix that, so it doesn't happen again.

[dragorian]

i was in titan ex and a player was constantly complaining the dps was to slow and how one know that with out useing a parser he/she was contantanly being disruptive to every one and we stared to mess up alot so since this person was starting to iratate me so i just left and took the 30 min penalty since the game offers me a lot of stuff to do i wont play with ppl that harrases with a parser

[NeoAmon]

i was in titan ex and a player was constantly complaining the dps was to slow and how one know that with out useing a parser he/she was contantanly being disruptive to every one and we stared to mess up alot so since this person was starting to iratate me so i just left and took the 30 min penalty since the game offers me a lot of stuff to do i wont play with ppl that harrases with a parser

So the player did not attack you and was pointing out the issue the group was having without singling out anyone or harassing anyone.

From my point of view you are the abuser since you left like an angry elitist, just not about failing but about someone pointing out the group weakness.

Yeah it is 100% his fault and not yours /s. The funny part is that you are assuming he is using a parser while Titan Ex is the easiest fight in the game to identify group DPS level, low or high. How? Easy, Titan rotations are based on his health, he ends one rotation and start the other based on Damage done to him or rather his health %. It is 100% possible to end his phase rotations before they are even halfway through based on high dps and vice versa if DPS was low.

No wonder players such as yourself are struggling with Titan Ex, you are not willing to try or improve. Please carry me is the motto of such behaviour.