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    Osric Sylador
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cailae View Post
    We are assuming we are already at the "failed at" point in the relationship. You are also correct in that this is a game. I am not your teacher, I am not your boss, and likely I do not know you on any personal level. Thus you are measured where it is most important.
    Here is where we will disagree. Community building is a responsibility we all take on whether we want to or not. The reason for this is because oftentimes, how we interact with the community determines our experience, positively or negatively. Instead of sending people away for failing, make them a better player.

    In other words, "what is most important" is the interaction with the other player, not the success or failure of the group. This will create a longer lasting experience for everyone involved, because they don't feel like they have to do better in order to enjoy content, but want to do better to achieve something difficult. This doesn't pertain to everyone, I understand that, but I know if I were treated one way as opposed to the other, I would do better.
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    Cailae Ekisho
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clavaat View Post
    Here is where we will disagree. Community building is a responsibility we all take on whether we want to or not. The reason for this is because oftentimes, how we interact with the community determines our experience, positively or negatively. Instead of sending people away for failing, make them a better player.

    In other words, "what is most important" is the interaction with the other player, not the success or failure of the group. This will create a longer lasting experience for everyone involved, because they don't feel like they have to do better in order to enjoy content, but want to do better to achieve something difficult. This doesn't pertain to everyone, I understand that, but I know if I were treated one way as opposed to the other, I would do better.
    Unfortunately this is where you hit the problem of divergent goals. when you have thousands of people sharing a space you will often find that divergent goals cause the most friction. If my goal is only to clear content, and your goal is to goof around and have fun, neither of us are wrong. But, when put together, things can get messy. I often also do not have time to hold someones hand and make them better. When I DO have that time, I tend to spend it with my FC helping them be better players. I also don't jump into a PF party that says "Learning party!" and rage out that they don't win on the first few tries (if at all). I knew what I signed up for. This is why I don't understand people raging out when they don't hold up their end in other situations.
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