AOE Toggle Needs to GO

[darkstarpoet1]

Why does it make sense to have two spells that do the same exact thing? Please explain your post, because your reasoning is lost on me.

The current system does the same exact thing as your proposed "-aga" spells, except that it's easier to manage on the fly (I want to switch the spell that I have selected to AoE 'cause 3 of my party mates just got hit by a piest's breath attack? I HIT Z! Wow, that was so effing difficult), and it compliments the action restrictions that we currently have on all of our characters. This isn't even factoring in all of the menu clutter that we'll have by having one more of every single spell in our skills list.

Your idea is completely unintuitive, and is a step BACKWARDS.

exactly further proof that the development team we have in place now are completely lost and in way over their head. they don't care if it is a step forwards or a step backwards as long as they are changing stuff.

edit: it's almost to the point of putting out a petition to have yoshi removed as head and the entire team fired as they have proven they have lost direction of what people want out of a game. they even make polls for us to comment on and then ignore the results of them because it is not what they want to do.

[Tsuga]

exactly further proof that the development team we have in place now are completely lost and in way over their head. they don't care if it is a step forwards or a step backwards as long as they are changing stuff.

No, they're just catering to every idiot with an account. If I make a thread that says "I HETE HP BARS, IT MAKES THE GAME 2 EASY KUZ I CAN SEE WHEN IM GUNNA DIE", it would get probably get support from all of the other masochists, and eventually get some sort of dev response.

This is the problem with official forums. Even the most incompetent players have a voice, and if they're a loud enough crybaby they'll end up on SE's radar.

This thread has a handful of supporters, and everyone else is tearing their argument apart, but because it's been at the top of the "active threads" list for the last couple of days, it is actually being seriously considered.

SE, this thread's OP doesn't even have a valid argument, please stop and READ the entire debate. There are so many cons to reverting to an XI style system that it's silly. If you ARE changing toggle, please consider IMPROVING it, not REMOVING it. The fix all to every single "issue" (I consider this particular case a non-issue) should not be to REMOVE, but to IMPROVE it.

Of course, Bayohne's response could have just been an STFU to this thread's supporters, since it sounds like this change may not happen for a very long time.

The toggle works fine. Why complicate things?

Agreed.

[darkstarpoet1]

No, they're just catering to every idiot with an account. If I make a thread that says "I HETE HP BARS, IT MAKES THE GAME 2 EASY KUZ I CAN SEE WHEN IM GUNNA DIE", it would get probably get support from all of the other masochists, and eventually get some sort of dev response.

This is the problem with official forums. Even the most incompetent players have a voice, and if they're a loud enough crybaby they'll end up on SE's radar.

no the problems are the people that were happy with parts of the game do not come in here and cry like little 5 year old kids about touching one button being too hard to figure out. the ones that are happy with the system the way it is for the most part do not come in here. if they are happy with aoe toggle why would they come in here and post? they have no reason to.

if they want to listen to the players voice they should have a players poll to see what people think about it overall. they want to do what they want to do so they can say they are changing the game. it doesn't matter to this team whether the changes are good or bad as long as it looks like they are doing something.

I'm going to assume the dev team has a good reason and an even better replacement for toggle. The toggle was a good, easy to use feature. I'm hoping they something equally as intuitive and easy to use ready to replace it. I also hope the dev team has the sense to share a little more info with us to subdue the impending shitstorm.

you mean like the good reason for nerfing the nm's months ago that were already too easy? they changed that months before any battle changes were made just to change something. it had no reason behind it other than it showed they did something. of course that something was horrible, but hey is was something i guess.