The Monk Temple

[NoctisUmbra]

What a surprise that the person who doesn't know how probability works doesn't know how statistics work.

E: It was determined by pretty extensive testing that you can do yourself because I'm not here to spoonfeed you that the stat weights for monks (and melee classes in general) are Acc to cap > SS >= Crit >> Det >>> Acc beyond cap

Oh dear... another Skill Speed enthusiast.

Switch that around to STR > Acc to cap > Det > Crit >> SS, and then you'll be closer to making sense.

Must be some amazing testing if it concluded that Skill Speed, a stat that has absolutely no effect on Auto Attacks (which account for ~60% of where MNK DPS comes from) is the best to stack.


EDIT:

Brain fart with the 60%. It is actually more like 25%, which is still significant.

[Instrumentality]

Oh dear... another Skill Speed enthusiast.

Switch that around to STR > Acc to cap > Det > Crit >> SS, and then you'll be closer to making sense.

Must be some amazing testing if it concluded that Skill Speed, a stat that has absolutely no effect on Auto Attacks (which account for ~60% of where MNK DPS comes from) is the best to stack.

Oh man, 60% of your dps?

What do you do, ignore your weapon skills? That must be an amazing parse.

[NoctisUmbra]

Oh man, 60% of your dps?

What do you do, ignore your weapon skills? That must be an amazing parse.

and you must have never actually parsed (or at least used an accurate one with actual breakdowns)

[Instrumentality]

Edit: Ok.

tenchar

[NoctisUmbra]

lol actually scratch that - not sure why I randomly remembered 60%. Did seem off on second thought.

It is, however, a significant contributor to total DPS and remains entirely unaffected by Skill Speed. Actually looking at some old parses instead of trying to rely on my shit memory, it does account for roughly a quarter of total DPS.

[Instrumentality]

lol actually scratch that - not sure why I randomly remembered 60%. Did seem off on second thought.

It is, however, a significant contributor to total DPS and remains entirely unaffected by Skill Speed.

30% is what our Monks get from auto attacks.

Well, 28-32% depending on weapon in use.

[NoctisUmbra]

30% is what our Monks get from auto attacks.

Yup, fixed. While the 60 was ridiculous and incorrect, the overall point of my post remains in regards to Skill Speed being a shit stat, at least in comparison to Det or Crit.

[Instrumentality]

Yup, fixed. While the 60 was ridiculous and incorrect, the overall point of my post remains in regards to Skill Speed being a shit stat, at least in comparison to Det or Crit.

I think our monks are str > acc to cap > crit >>> det/ss.

[YarozeX]

My personaly opinion STR > ACC to cap > DET = CRIT > SS.

Reason being if something has more DET I will pick it but if not I will then go for Crit.

ie I would pick the Allagan Gauntlets over the Melee hands (even tho the hands have more DET) due to that skill speed stat.

Also my opinion is that ACC/CRIT gear is better then DET/SS gear. ie the Vortex Ring of Striking > Hero's Ring of Slaying

[NoctisUmbra]

I think our monks are str > acc to cap > crit >>> det/ss.

Many MNKS are, and I'll take that over Skill Speed stackers any day.

I more or less considered them both about equally desirable (from an itemization standoint, det is the clear winner point for point) but I've been leaning towards stacking more det period now, and have marked a distinct increase in my DPS as a result of it.

It isn't difficult to make sense of it anyway, when MNK already crits rather often with Internal Release and has an auto-crit skill like Bootshine.