The Monk Temple

[YarozeX]

Momentarily forgot allagan chest is t5.

Funny enough I've actually been playing around with the Fuma body and comparing it to the melee cyclas. Although not much, I did in fact mark a dps increase. Provided you make up for the accuracy elsewhere. Plenty of accuracy options without skill speed after all.

This has been one thing I have been wondering myself. I have yet to buy the Myth body. (I main PLD so just now getting around to MNK)

[Rochetm]

This has been one thing I have been wondering myself. I have yet to buy the Myth body. (I main PLD so just now getting around to MNK)

Math says Myth is body is better.

[NoctisUmbra]

Math says Myth is body is better.

Actually somebody worked out the math using the commonly accepted weights and concluded that the Fuma Body came out slightly on top.

That's simply comparing piece for piece though. In the switch from Melee > Fuma, you lose 4 STR and 24 lolSkillSpeed, but gain 21 Det and 21 Crit.

The hypothesis: the considerable gain in Det and Crit slightly outweigh the loss of 4 STR and the Skill Speed.

I got the Fuma body earlier this week and began testing. My testing involved parsing multiple times on a striking dummy with a standard setup with the Melee Cyclas, and then parsing multiple times with the Fuma Body instead, whilst making up for the lost accuracy in other slots where I can stack something besides Skill Speed with it.

The conclusion: an easily distinguished increase in both min/max and avg damage values for all skills and auto attacks, as well as a slight increase in avg DPS.

So, until I get the Allagan Cuirass of Striking, I am now using the Fuma Body for all content other than Twintania (due to the higher accuracy cap).

[Allyrion]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...Temple/page123
Commonly accepted stat weights do not support the Fuma overall.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...29#post1756129
In this thread, I also compared the best sets (pre-T5) of either in each case and plugged it into Valk's calculator.
Even with a lower accuracy (which valk's calculator doesn't take into account), the Fuma set lost.
If you've got the Allagan Baghnakhs, you'd have to sub in even more accuracy obviously.

I haven't tested it myself, but the general math doesn't put the Fuma over the Melee.

[NoctisUmbra]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...Temple/page123
Commonly accepted stat weights do not support the Fuma overall.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...29#post1756129
In this thread, I also compared the best sets (pre-T5) of either in each case and plugged it into Valk's calculator.
Even with a lower accuracy (which valk's calculator doesn't take into account), the Fuma set lost.
If you've got the Allagan Baghnakhs, you'd have to sub in even more accuracy obviously.

I haven't tested it myself, but the general math doesn't put the Fuma over the Melee.

Interesting.

That being said, ultimately I tested it myself to my own satisfaction and didn't see a decrease of any kind. In fact I saw a slight increase.

I would at the very least say it's enough to discourage any budding MNKs from buying the Melee Cyclas at all if they haven't yet, and instead getting the Fuma Body and saving themselves the ~800 myth.

[Allyrion]

Interesting.

That being said, ultimately I tested it myself to my own satisfaction and didn't see a decrease of any kind. In fact I saw a slight increase.

I would at the very least say it's enough to discourage any budding MNKs from buying the Melee Cyclas at all if they haven't yet, and instead getting the Fuma Body and saving themselves the ~800 myth.

Yea, and I sort of support the Fuma as a stand-in piece particularly since the BiS also has no accuracy as well.
800 myth is a lot if you're just gearing up.

[NoctisUmbra]

Yea, and I sort of support the Fuma as a stand-in piece particularly since the BiS also has no accuracy as well.
800 myth is a lot if you're just gearing up.

The Allagan Cuirass has accuracy.

[Allyrion]

The Allagan Cuirass has accuracy.

My life is a lie.

[AlphaDragoon]

Interesting.

That being said, ultimately I tested it myself to my own satisfaction and didn't see a decrease of any kind. In fact I saw a slight increase.

I would at the very least say it's enough to discourage any budding MNKs from buying the Melee Cyclas at all if they haven't yet, and instead getting the Fuma Body and saving themselves the ~800 myth.

This has been my result after testing as well, Fuma gives you an increase on DPS.

[Size]

Interesting.

That being said, ultimately I tested it myself to my own satisfaction and didn't see a decrease of any kind. In fact I saw a slight increase.

I would at the very least say it's enough to discourage any budding MNKs from buying the Melee Cyclas at all if they haven't yet, and instead getting the Fuma Body and saving themselves the ~800 myth.

I'm not sure I would support this. The fuma piece probably does squeak past melee body so long as you can hit whatever you are punching. But remember Allagan pants drop in T1 which is a major accuracy loss. You wont be able to use them both, so I think people starting coil still need to invest in the melee body 1st.