Make FFXIV more like FFXI and less like WoW

[ApolloGenX]

With the new party finder feature, they really do have an opportunity to add some of that more old school content instead of more timed theme park instances.

I would like to see some explorable zones that have small group AND large group content, so that you can choose how deep/far you want to go.

[Canddi]

What server on XI are you in? I'm on Siren

I'm on Phoenix.

[Alipoprocks]

I never read forum posts (except on like BG looking for good gear setups and whatnot) before ffxiv. Was always too busy playing. All the massive posts for a game that's out and not in a beta waiting pattern says alot to me.

Why isn't everyone playing, instead of posting? This game is soooo watered down and boring. I only log in now to hang out with FC mates from 1.0. If I didn't have friends to hang out with, I wouldn't be playing this game at all anymore.

[Vandark]

I get it, you don't like FFXIV ARR.


I know you have an egotistical sense of misplaced entitlement because you played FFXI and FFXIV 1.0-1.23. You've shown it in numerous posts.

I care a great deal about this game and I had an entirely different vision for it.
I also have a great deal of respect for Hiromichi Tanaka and his vision for the game, I'm extremely disappointed that his vision has been crushed with ARR.

I've read "You" want to change FFXIV ARR into 1.24.

That is impossible, I just want some content back that I enjoy, that doesn't play like WoW or like Rift.
Things I want to see that FFXIV had

- I want crafting, gathering, farming monsters and gil to have a use again, have there depth returned and the Fishing game re introduced.
- I want caves and underground areas to explore
- NM's with small timers that drop awesome loot
- Coffers in the beast holds that require farming up keys, increase the difficulty of the beast holds, it's dumb that you can safely strole through an area that is supposed to be the enemy's Territory.
- Max lvl leves with loot for crafting and gil rewards.
- Bring back the music from 1.23 or improve on ARR's soundtrack.

Do you honestly believe this stuff wouldn't make ARR a better place, are you so blind that you can't even admit the game has faults?

What I don't get is why you are still playing. Or does that sense of entitlement you have extend to thinking that as you are paying a subscription fee that they will bow down to the "almighty Vandarks" wishes?

You behave like I'm the only one that wants this/talks about this, have you read this forum? Check this out more people talking about the same stuff, http://ns.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comment...shi_vs_tanaka/.

I stopped playing ARR for now because the game has become very repetitive and boring. Every time I try to play I get bored fast and log off, the restrictions are ridiculous and the end game is a joke. Unless there are some major improvements I won't be coming back ether, everyone I know that played 1.0 -> 1.23 has already quit.

If a company that has produced games I like before makes one I don't like, I dont buy or play it. If a game changes direction from something I enjoyed to something I don't I stop playing. Do I go on the forums demanding that they change just because I paid before? Of course not, I live in the real world, not in cloud cuckoo land.

It just proves how much I wanted this to be my next MMO and how much I care about the direction of the Final Fantasy series as a whole, you already expressed you would be annoyed if ARR changed into something you don't like. Why do you continually insist on being hypocritical, if the tables were turned who's to say you wouldn't want to defend what you enjoy, just as you are doing right now except I am not sure exactly what you are trying to defend when what you seek isn't at all threatened by what we seek.

No one is demanding that the current content be replaced or that future plans to expand on that content be stopped, just that we would like more verity, more options.

I'm not you, I express what my views are, especially when it's something I care about and I will continue voicing my opinion, thank you very much.

Now, instead of avoiding the question. Why not go to the FFXI forums which, albeit has changed, is closer to what you want and would make more sense to revert to what it was than to inanely try and change the direction totally of ARR?

FFXI's time has long past, there is no more future for FFXI, FFXIV is the future Final Fantasy MMO, I want FFXIV to be enjoyable for everyone, not just casuals and wow fanatics. I am after something new, unless you have a legit argument as to why you think ARR shouldn't re introduce content for it's fans then perhaps you shouldn't bother posting at all.

You constantly keep saying things like you think I want this to be XI-2, that I want this to be FFXIV 1.23, no I want ARR to take the best from those two games in order to improve greatly on the ARR's over all experience. That doesn't mean change A to B or C just that A should take what B and C have to offer and expand as a whole.

I stated that this question has already been answered numinous times, that doesn't mean I'm avoiding the question just that there is no point in continuously repeating myself, you have your answer so get over it.

Your here posting in the same forum because you care about the game, just because I have different opinions about the game doesn't mean I should just up and leave, I'm not going anywhere because I also care about this game.

I'm sorry, do you feel threatened by my posts?



Perhaps in your next post you can join the debate or are you going to ask me to go play FFXI again. LOL

[Pikarya]

It's not like the progression for leveling was limited to Dunes => Qufim => Kazam => Altepa => Crawler's Next => Altepa Again => Boyahda Tree => etc. Oh wait, it was!

I'm not sure how long you played XI. But there were many, many more XP spot options than that.

[Virgil]

I'm not sure how long you played XI. But there were many, many more XP spot options than that.

When did Boyahda Tree become obsolete? Either CoP or ToAU but definitely by the time ToAU came out.

[Alipoprocks]

I'm not sure how long you played XI. But there were many, many more XP spot options than that.

When level sync came out, people just stayed in Qufim. That sucked.

[mana_leak]

As a XI player of 7 years, I feel that I would agree and disagree with incorporating more FFXI type content.

HNM/NM spawns should never, ever make a reappearance. More often than not, this would create a toxic experience for all parties present at the time. I've done my time at Tiamat/Fafhogg, and it wasn't the waiting around that really got to me, it was what was usually said during/after the spawn timers.


Limiting content access based on story completion was also more of a headache and pain in the rear than it was enjoyable. Not only was it not fun at the end of the day, but when you actually succeeded, there was no real sense of achievement, but instead this sense of relief that the specific trial you were attempting finally succeeded. More often than not, the people who support story based road blocks were not playing Chains of Promathia story content back in 2005.

Coffer hunting was fun, the first few times. Then it just turns into a huge headache of a task, or it becomes trivialized with stealth items like Oil and Powder.

Experience parties were a great way to make friends, I believe all of the friends I knew up to my last days were all met in experience parties (Menalek of Diabolos here, if anyone is curious to know). But even knowing that, leveling turned into a really huge drag when you started working towards your Third or Fourth level 75 job. Heck, merit parties were worse even. Have fun with your 7k exp/hour in Bibiki Bay. Treasures of Aht Urghan made merit parties, and leveling 60+ a lot more bearable, though.

The one thing that I feel is absolutely important to FFXI's success, was in fact gear importance. In FFXIV I feel that gear is unimportant when it is acquired, and you know off the bat that it will be replaced in a days time (Either off the MB, or from a vendor). It was amazing to obtain Gallant Sollerets, or Leaping Boots, and know that those pieces of gear had so much lasting power than you would still be using them at level 75. When I obtained my first set of AF in FFXIV, I was really disappointed to notice that a few days later, it was all replaced by a generic looking set I bought from a vendor. After that, it was slowly replaced by gear obtained from Coil.

[Obysuca]

Yeah man if you still play add me as friend if you want, Vandark is still my XI character.

I haven't been on since a little after SoA came out. Mostly because even well after it was out, people were still only shouting for aby crap or just full on stopped doing anything :/

[Sapphic]

I'm sorry, do you feel threatened by my posts?

Perhaps in your next post you can join the debate or are you going to ask me to go play FFXI again. LOL

Threatened? Not at all as I know they are just hot air that will amount to nothing. I don't get mad with silly little posters on the forums You are amusing in your posts with your silly little pictures.

Maybe you should look up the definition of debate, debate is not just people who agree with you, it's both sides.

Direction I want FFXIV ARR to go? I want to go it's own direction, to stand out differently from FFXI and FFXIV 1.fail. I don't want it to have revamped content from previous FF MMOs. I want it to be new, for it to stand apart whilst keeping an overall Final Fantasy flavor, which for me, it does.

Theres no written rule that you have to like every Final Fantasy game or every game from SQE. I didn't like the direction they went with the single player FFs after 7, so I didn't buy and play them. SE decided that was direction they wanted to take them, and it paid of for them. I don't demand they change back, they either will or wont. Irregardless.

Honest question, wouldn't you prefer to try something new and maybe enjoy than to replay something rehashed? Which is point i'm making. Maybe over the coming year some of the content added will be more appealing to you. Final Fantasy FFXIV ARR is a new game that will stand or fall on it's own merits. Forget what happened in FFXI and FFXIV 1.fail. Comparison is irrelevant.