Make FFXIV more like FFXI and less like WoW

[DSX]

FYI, full allagan is not best in slot for all jobs. Just had to say that. ;p

FYI, I know that but I was talking about it specifically because it was the one I got asked about :P

Me saying it's the top was a general statement and I realize what pieces are not sought as best and for what jobs but it wouldn't change anything about what I wanted to say so I didn't get into that because again the point is whatever set you have (the set that contain best item in every slot for your job) will be replaced shortly by the next best in slot items that will be released.

[Alipoprocks]

Okay. I was just responding like that because of your comment that allagan replaces AF+1 and it absolutely doesn't. That's all.

[Whiz]

a game designed like that will never have memorable set of gear that one person can really feel proud obtaining
you wouldn't even have enough time to be proud about it even if you wanted to because as you have mentioned you will be replacing it right away..

That the modern design of MMO's its either raise the lv cap and re balance classes or just add harder content and raise the gear lv (where as you won't need to re balance classes).
That's why they give you vanity so you can still wear your favorite set.

[DSX]

Okay. I was just responding like that because of your comment that allagan replaces AF+1 and it absolutely doesn't. That's all.

It really didn't matter what item you have in which slot to the point I was making so I didn't get into the details because it was beside the point
I was asked about Allagan gear so I used it but I really meant it for all gear and all sets (including the mixed sets) but thanks for your comments for the readers who might not know

That the modern design of MMO's its either raise the lv cap and re balance classes or just add harder content and raise the gear lv (where as you won't need to re balance classes).
That's why they give you vanity so you can still wear your favorite set.

this design will never have memorable set of gear that one person can really feel proud obtaining, you wouldn't even have enough time to be proud about it even if you wanted to because you will be replacing it right away..
and vanity will not make you proud of whatever set you have on
it furthers show how its nothing special to the player that they rather display something flashy than something they supposedly should be proud to have

[mana_leak]

this design will never have memorable set of gear that one person can really feel proud obtaining, you wouldn't even have enough time to be proud about it even if you wanted to because you will be replacing it right away..
and vanity will not make you proud of whatever set you have on
it furthers show how its nothing special to the player that they rather display something flashy than something they supposedly should be proud to have

What someone is, or isn't proud of obtaining is entirely subjective. Don't make blanket statements like that, it only shows how shallow your thinking is. One could say that finally obtaining their first set of artifact armor was a large milestone for them, thus placing importance on that gear. Vanity or not, it's up to the individual player how to feel about a piece or set of gear, and what reason they have to display it.

[Senfei]

Whether or not it was "easy" and "not epic", obtaining my lvl 45-50 Paladin AF on my first 50 was pretty epic to me. I finally felt like I was the shield protecting the Scion's of the Seventh Dawn, a champion and a warrior of light that was rising up to protect my friends and smash the Garlean Empire's reign of terror in Eorzea.

So, just as the above poster said, please don't make blanket statements like that. You don't really get to speak for the entire population of the game.

[Doo]

Gear that you can bypass or out level in less than a week makes it feel cheap.

[LiadansWhisper]

Gear that you can bypass or out level in less than a week makes it feel cheap for me.

Fixed that for you.

[Vandark]

Gear that you can bypass or out level in less than a week makes it feel cheap.

I think the content can be introduced too quickly also, it's like you don't even have the time to appreciate your new set of gear because it's replaced too fast and without any real challenge as well.

I preferred content coming in slower that was more in depth with more obstacles and the thing I enjoyed about it the most was, not everyone could obtain everything because it required alot of skill in order to obtain.

The longer they spend on one thing before releasing it the better the final product, rather than rushing things forward all the time, I am one for quality over quantity.

I enjoy challenges, I don't find FFXIV challenging so that part of it is kind of meh.

One could say that finally obtaining their first set of artifact armor was a large milestone for them, thus placing importance on that gear. Vanity or not, it's up to the individual player how to feel about a piece or set of gear, and what reason they have to display it.

Hmm I do feel like to some extent you lose a sense of achievement when it doesn't matter how good or bad you are at FF14 you can still be max geared in the best gear available. In FFXI when I finally got my Maats cap I was actually proud of myself because it was such a huge achievement in the game, hardly anyone had one, if you were seen wearing your Maats cap everyone knew you went to huge lengths in order to obtain it.

[Ishmachiah]

That it changed from having a strong hold on a niche market to turning into something almost no one wants?

Except that FFXI didn't have a strong hold on a niche market. The players that played it simply had nothing else to play and when other options came about, they jumped ship. What FFXI is right now is what it needs to be to compete in that "niche market".

You either adapt to what MMOs are or you stop playing them. I advise the latter for you crybabies and let's face it, that's what you people really are.