The problem with allowing Turn 2 Rage strat

[Orophin]

I think SE rolling over and saying that they're not going to alter the fight totally undermines the work that the battle team put into this fight. They've turned a fight that required a certain amount of coordination into an endurance game. They're setting a precedent with this: if you can find a way to bypass fight mechanics then by all means do so.

[stpetepiper]

So you dont just burn last boss w/out killing the adds in copperbell mines if you get it in roulette, or ever have healer kite adds on first boss of cutters cry? Are those exploits too? Does it make you a bad player since you arent doing all the mechanics of those fights.

[Subucnimorning]

So you dont just burn last boss w/out killing the adds in copperbell mines if you get it in roulette, or ever have healer kite adds on first boss of cutters cry? Are those exploits too? Does it make you a bad player since you arent doing all the mechanics of those fights.

Stop pretending that avoiding mechanics via high DPS or using a kiting strategy has anything to do with using a strategy that involves nothing more than a target dummy and some AoE heals when normally the boss has about 4 different mechanics you would have to deal with, they are completely different scenarios. I really don't care if people use this strategy, but pretending its the same thing as having high DPS or kiting adds is ridiculous.

[stpetepiper]

My point is that if ppl just burned through the mechanics would you still have the same prob... say a grp of all i90 that takes 1 tank 1 heal and 6 dps and just burn the shit out of it before any mechanics really matter,, I just dont see how healing through it is an exploit but taking mechanics from a boss by burning through it isnt.

[Kabooa]

My point is that if ppl just burned through the mechanics would you still have the same prob... say a grp of all i90 that takes 1 tank 1 heal and 6 dps and just burn the shit out of it before any mechanics really matter,, I just dont see how healing through it is an exploit but taking mechanics from a boss by burning through it isnt.

You don't kill a boss fast enough to avoid one rot rotation, one laser line, or one ballast.

No matter how much DPS you bring, you are going through at least one of those.

Beyond that, dealing with additional monsters doesn't mean killing them. If the tank can tank them, if the dps can kite them, that's dealing with them.

[Peptaru]

The problem is that avoiding mechanics because of being overgeared, smarter, faster, better, stronger, OR working around them because them seem less consequential (Like adds or feeding slimes), OR doing it because there is no direct reward (T3) doesn't matter. Playing in a manner not intended is playing in a manner not intended. You don't get to pick and choose. Either do all encounters as purely as possible, using all elements as intended, or kindly STFU.

Hyperbole: I'm not racist, I only hate lalafells. I don't hate the other races.

That is the argument of the anti-enrage people... It is either all okay or none is. This is a true dichotomy, so let's not chime in with "false dichotomy" because someone is taking a critical thinking college course so they understand the world.

[Tahldon]

This is all just an argument of preferences at this point. The developers have stated their case and that they will leave it be.

The rest of this is the beating of a dead horse.

[Noahlimits]

This is all just an argument of preferences at this point. The developers have stated their case and that they will leave it be.

The rest of this is the beating of a dead horse.

Until they ninja nerf it like they did dark devices (which they also said was perfectly fine).

[stpetepiper]

You don't kill a boss fast enough to avoid one rot rotation, one laser line, or one ballast.

I wasn't trying to really say you could kill him before he does any abilities, my point was that im sure you probably could do it passing the rot maybe 2-3 times....I guess I don't really consider the others to be real mechanics because they are just renamed forms of the same things you have already been dodging since about lvl 15, same as I don't really consider a tail swipe or a cleave a mechanic. I guess it could be called that but if you are having trouble avoiding those moves it's hard for me to believe you have made it to turn 2 and up to ADS anyways. ROT is the only "real" mechanic in the fight, if you are having trouble w/ any of the other "mechanics" you should probably practice in some low level duty roulette more first.

[Wizhard]

This is all just an argument of preferences at this point. The developers have stated their case and that they will leave it be.

The rest of this is the beating of a dead horse.

"Warriors are fine". Month later massive buff.
"Dark Devices are fine". Month later massive nerf.