The problem with allowing Turn 2 Rage strat

[SirGazuntai]

Honestly, this thread shouldn't target Turn 2.

The OP's problem seems to be that less and less tanks are getting through content in comparison to healers and DPS. If that's the case every single turn can be done with 1 tank. Ifrit HM can be done with 1 tank, as can Garuda HM and Titan HM.

The only places that can't be done with 1 tank are bosses that require tank swaps, such as Ultima HM.

Tanks have it extremely easy, even with this issue. They can create their own party with 1 tank and no doubt 4-5 DPS will join within minutes. Healers come pretty quickly, too. I've also never had any issue finding a tank for any turn of Coil.

[fillupurcup]

i see no problem with it, it gives people who have a static a quicker way through the fight by normal mode and allows pick up groups who dont have static to progress as well. i find it funny how so many people want to complain about how enrage strat makes for worse players but no one seems to have a problem with FC's selling titan runs for relic which releases far more crappy players into the game than taking advantage of boss mechanic.

[Xanxas]

Turn 2 is incredibly easy just like every other fight in the game. I wouldn't consider wasting 10 minutes waiting and then another 5 to kill it when I could just go in and kill it in 5 to begin with.

[alhandra]

dont even need 3 healers or bards for this strat, we did it with 2 healers a bard and a pally

[Cligue]

Did it with 1 sch 1 whm 2 plds 1 brd 1 drg 1 smn 1 blm. The only valid point is it makes turn 2 too easy for being part of the hardest dungeon in the game.

[LordSaviour]

It is kind of how progression goes in an MMO. Get powerful enough to zerg said boss and ignore everything else.

My experience from XI - Kirin, Dynamis Lord etc. Kraken Club + DRK or MNK = Dead Boss. XP PTs went from Arrow Burn to Axe Burn to just TP Burn. Tanks BSTs and Casters got left out. But yet they continued to level and find a way to survive.

Let people play their own way and stop crying.

[Curcio]

I personally have no problem using the Enrage strategy, and have used it before.

That being said, I'm surprised the development team doesn't have a problem with it. You would think they would want the Turn 2 mechanics to actually matter. After all, they're the ones who planned out the buffs/ability paths and whatnot.

[Kabooa]

I'm all for it.

Just fix it so ADS continues using its abilities.

Because this is literally the only 'Enrage' I've heard of where the boss stops using abilities.

[WallowInwords]

A community is based off of multiple people and the beliefs and ideals they encompass. Now not every one person thinks the same. T2 enrage is an alternative method of completing it. What is the beauty of this game if nothing but being able to do things differently with the same outcome. I'm sure the game would be much less enjoyable if everything had to be done the same right down to the smallest detail every time. Now while you may disagree with T2 enrage and believe it's making a detrimental impact to your server. It's actually making a positive impact on your community to those who wish to complete it the way they have chosen. Just like any community, you can choose not to participate with those individuals. That's your choice. But they are also making their own decisions and happily playing and enjoying the game on their own accord. To all groups out there, I say find your own way. Do something different. Step out of the mold and find your own way that works. In fact I dare you.

[Rekujen]

I hate the enrage mechanic but if you're gonna complain about it... why aren't you complaining about turn3? I'm pretty sure Square didn't intend for everyone to skip mobs and keep jumping all over the map... but everyone does it anyway.

Here's a thought.

Fix turn 3 so mobs have to be killed before teleport works, add a loot coffer at the end to compensate.