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  1. #91
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    Eternity Moon
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    If you can't dodge stuff then MMOs ain't the games for you lol
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    "A wounded man says to his assailant "if I live I will kill you if I die you are forgiven" thus is the rule of honor" - Omertá

  2. #92
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    ServerCollaps's Avatar
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    Tiger Undie
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    how do you define amazing internet speed? got only dsl 6k and never had a problem and already downed titan ex
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  3. #93
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    Fun.
    Nothing but fun.
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  4. #94
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    Fenwick Fuerlas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardes View Post
    So devs try to optimize their mmos so more people can play their game with less than strong computers but people need amazing internet speeds to play the game too?

    Kinda amazing if you ask me.
    It's possible to have a decent computer with a strong internet connection, considering the internet isn't exactly built into the computer itself.
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  5. #95
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    Titan would be fun with a static. it's nearly impossible to do with randoms, even in party finder. Always one person or two can't figure out how to dodge and its an automatic fail.
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  6. #96
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardes View Post
    So devs try to optimize their mmos so more people can play their game with less than strong computers but people need amazing internet speeds to play the game too?

    Kinda amazing if you ask me.
    I have far from Amazing internet speed and I can dodge stuff fine..lol The only time I ever have issues is random graphical lag due to an incompatible driver version (beta updates are never a good idea.)
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  8. #97
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    Xenobius's Avatar
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    Drak Thar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    I have far from Amazing internet speed and I can dodge stuff fine..lol The only time I ever have issues is random graphical lag due to an incompatible driver version (beta updates are never a good idea.)
    Sheesh, for the umpteenth time, you don't need "amazing connection SPEED" to dodge stuff.
    You need to be lucky enough for your ISP to route your signal through a minimal number of hops with as little lag between as possible.
    It's not something you can "fix" or buy a better version of - even if you keep bugging your ISPs support service. You can *TRY* to use a known workaround and buy a VPN (or switch ISPs altogether), but it only gets you so far, because SE uses such godawful network coding, that lag is not compensated for, it's amplified. Some US and Canada residents have it better, some have it worse - everything is decided by the route your packets take.

    P.S. For people in Europe - fix or no fix - positional lag is still a big issue and it won't be even close to getting solved until SE actually coughs up the money and rents some datacenters in EU, you know, like every other half-decent MMO publisher does if they target EU playerbase.
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  9. #98
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardes View Post
    So devs try to optimize their mmos so more people can play their game with less than strong computers but people need amazing internet speeds to play the game too?

    Kinda amazing if you ask me.
    I use a At&t "high speed" internet that maxes out at 2.80 mb and averages 1.50, which is so far behind the average internet speeds of the world that it's sad and pathetic but that's rural business for you. The speed doesn't matter so much as the health of the connection, with health being your latency or sometimes called ping although ping really means the testing of latency. I have on average best ping times of 18-25 ms. When it falls to 500+ ms I start to take huge blows to my ability to play online games, download videos, and whatnot.

    My connection has become increasingly bad over the past two years because of over subbed Co boxes and an all around general lack of care by AT&T to provide the service they sell. As a result too many people are fighting over the same bandwidth with the system never being upgraded despite the billions of dollars these companies have at their disposal. If you don't live in the city or very near it, chances are extremely high you are being rammed from behind by whoever offers you internet, if at all, with bills so high and laughable compared to city folk that pay for 20 times the bandwidth for 3 times less the price.

    I heavily suspect this is the problem for many players here that do not have the unfortunate situation of living across the sea from their server which negatively impacts their ability to dodge AoEs in a low latency required MMO. The UK region and such are light years ahead of America for internet but distance still rules supreme for ping times. Many people fail to understand that their 20 mb good internet means jack if too many people are subbed to the same bandwidth causing a decrease in latency speeds which will affect your online performance. It's like a traffic jam. It slows everyone down when too many cars are out and about and the roads are just not large enough to accommodate everyone. The result is a traffic jam and you moving at a snail's pace. It's not a problem at SE or their servers. It's our internet. It is on SE's head to realize this though, and to adjust their game accordingly.
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    Last edited by Valcro; 12-29-2013 at 01:57 AM.

  10. #99
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    prymortal's Avatar
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    Damien Ramirez
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    Shinryu
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroRains View Post
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    Kinda agree, but i want to add to this as it needs to be said & passed onto the Dev team.

    There is still lagg its like the inbetween servers or whatever from urs data centre to our computer are running windows 95 as the information passes through them, this goes for the majority of plays who are not in "The Americas". Who fault is it? ISP says yours, The fact private tunnels Agree with them.... You decide.
    The Titan EM fight Also involved EVERYTHING Players said to avoid using in future due to lagg & general issues with it. The Dev team didnt bother to take a second & think!!, let alone listen to players, Who are experianced & know about these things Believe it or not. (AS USUAL!).
    The Majority of crybaby Endgamers who asked for harder content to spam have done it once & thats it, no more (As Usual)

    Garuda EM was fun, Titan EM.... Not so much when you live outside of The Americas" theres to much delay for it to be at a playable standard.

    MOST IMPORTANTLY: As i said before many times & as you the Dev's ignored (As Usual) The "Harder" content should Not (in no way shape or form) be made into quests that involve you to finish to complete the quest, because theres ones that will be playable & ones that wont.
    Everyone knows making everything so it needs to be beaten for quest & Story line would be stupid, Seriously it doesnt take a Genious to figure that out & only Questionable People would make something hard to beat that involves no delay & skills beyond most of there player base, when clearly to many people are having trouble with the Hard ones atm. <-- Not me you trolls!
    You'd think they would look at there statistics???? Clearly not *cough Housing, wrong wrong wrong. But thats another post.

    In fact everything i said would happen, happened... Maybe not 100% correct but a good 90+% (ALSO AS USUAL!) I do get sick of being So Right all the time Yoshi & Dev Team. I called PVP probliems 100% tho :P & im mainly a PVE MMO gamer.
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    Last edited by prymortal; 12-29-2013 at 01:59 AM.

  11. #100
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    Skye Do'urden
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    Leviathan
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    We have people die and we recover all the time, sounds like player skill is the issue.
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