White Mage is Poorly designed compared to Scholar

[Remilia_Nightfall]

It had the same effect of a buff.

Blm double flare nerf was a fix(syncing mp ticks) but it removed dps potential from. So a nerf.

Well, I prefer to differentiate between a "buff" / "nerf" coming from trying to balance stuff, and a "buff" / "nerf" coming from fixing bugs.
I think it makes a huge difference since it lets us understand how the developers envision each Job.

But yeah, let's agree we have a semantics disagreement.

[sharazisspecial]

Well, I prefer to differentiate between a "buff" / "nerf" coming from trying to balance stuff, and a "buff" / "nerf" coming from fixing bugs.
I think it makes a huge difference since it lets us understand how the developers envision each Job.

But yeah, let's agree we have a semantics disagreement.

Why are you Schs so against making the secondary stat on gear "fun" for whm?

Now that most whm are in full ilvl90 and some like me have allagan weapon. We have nothing to look to forward to gear wise.
There is No carrot on the stick anymore gear wise. Gear can be so fun for a healer if designed well.
Whereas the scholars i know are striving for more critical hit and get happy receiving a piece with critical rating.

Scholar was designed well. White mage was not.

[Remilia_Nightfall]

Why are you Schs so against making the secondary stat on gear "fun" for whm?

Now that most whm are in full ilvl90 and some like me have allagan weapon. We have nothing to look to forward to gear wise.
No carrot on the stick anymore.
Whereas the scholars i know are striving for more critical hit and get happy receiving a piece with critical rating.

That is why I said that I agree WHM is boring compared to SCH - not from the fact it is less powerful, but because it is more "vanilla".

I am ALL for making WHM more fun to play - no one is insane enough to want the opposite. Point is, usually WHM make this point by stating how SCH is clearly, undoubtedly superior and sometimes "OP".
That is not, imho, the argument that should be made.

[sharazisspecial]

That is why I said that I agree WHM is boring compared to SCH - not from the fact it is less powerful, but because it is more "vanilla".

I am ALL for making WHM more fun to play - no one is insane enough to want the opposite. Point is, usually WHM make this point by stating how SCH is clearly, undoubtedly superior and sometimes "OP".
That is not, imho, the argument that should be made.

No whm it self is ok, it could be alot more fun. But it has its moments (like timing heals).
Although some abilities like Presence of mind is so stupid in design . 5 min cooldown 10 second duration spell speed -.-.

It is gear that is boring and poorly designed for white mage. No real incentive for whm to go beyond getting the max ilvl in each slot.

[Sinaloa]

Mh what about a minigame for whm.

Any cast done by a whm will pop an arrow at a random spot on the Screen, facing a random direction, at 90% of the cast. If the whm moves that direction it wont abort the spell but finish it immediatly. Every 100 Points in spellspeed will make the arrow apear 3% earlier.

[Miiu]

Mh what about a minigame for whm.

Any cast done by a whm will pop an arrow at a random spot on the Screen, facing a random direction, at 90% of the cast. If the whm moves that direction it wont abort the spell but finish it immediatly. Every 100 Points in spellspeed will make the arrow apear 3% earlier.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Controller.jpg <- new mandatory whm controller. :>

Why are you Schs so against making the secondary stat on gear "fun" for whm?

Now that most whm are in full ilvl90 and some like me have allagan weapon. We have nothing to look to forward to gear wise.
There is No carrot on the stick anymore gear wise. Gear can be so fun for a healer if designed well.
Whereas the scholars i know are striving for more critical hit and get happy receiving a piece with critical rating.

Scholar was designed well. White mage was not.

On a more serious note maybe I understand this wrong or whatever. But you basically say in your last post that you got your best in slot whm gear and now don't have anything to look forward to. But where would the difference be if you were sch with maxed out equipment?

[sharazisspecial]

On a more serious note maybe I understand this wrong or whatever. But you basically say in your last post that you got your best in slot whm gear and now don't have anything to look forward to. But where would the difference be if you were sch with maxed out equipment?

1. Gear is not exciting for whm. Due to secondary stats doing so little for whm

2. Whm dont synergize well with any secondary stat so any ilvl90 will do.

Difference is that it feels like more of a journey and improvement as a sch. They dont just settle after getting any ilvl90 they can still improve their character.

Stats in general are underwhelming for healers. Scholar too, since crit so fun and useful it out shadows det and speed.
In other mmos such as wow , patches change the effect of secondary to make them more appealing for healers. Such as changing abilties to synergize with a stat . Making regen/dots be affected by haste.

Or we could summarize it this way:

WHM trait design relies solely on RNG and flat % numbers while SCH trait and spell design enables a way to actively influence proc and skill synergy

This quote is good.

[Eriane]

Its nowhere near the level of synergy sch has with crit, but i like my det/crit build on my whm, although det could stand to be a little stronger. The less i need to rely on cure 2 the more efficient i am.

That being said, a crit build on a sch is just... so much better.

I completely agree with OP that it would be nice to better synergize with a secondary stat but i just don't like spellspeed.

[sharazisspecial]

Its nowhere near the level of synergy sch has with crit, but i like my det/crit build on my whm, although det could stand to be a little stronger. The less i need to rely on cure 2 the more efficient i am.

That being said, a crit build on a sch is just... so much better.

I completely agree with OP that it would be nice to better synergize with a secondary stat but i just don't like spellspeed.

The critical strike is fun because it makes big numbers XD especially in comparison to unwhelming speed and det. There are ways to make spell speed more interesting too.