Please nerf summoner in PvP.

[Fukujin]

The amount of people who don't know how to pvp is astounding, Playerskill playerskill playerskill
I rock two BLM's and we have destroyed SMNs before, 50+wins then randomly get in a match that last for 15mins, lose to a drg mnk combo. Weve also lost to double SMN but their not broken

BLM's who complain are doing it wrong, we have everything we need to kick arce
Night wing, Equinamity, Surecast, Lathargy, Raging swiftcast Flare, like I said before we rock two BLM's and we go 50+ wins without losing, communication and playerskill is the most important after having a couple of pvp abilitys. Its really not imbalanced if your good you can avoid shit by line of sighting and if Casters are good they can bind/slow and run away hell even surecast sleep. Thats why you have teammates to help you if your getting attacked to frequently

[Ghasto]

Lol, I play mostly PLD in PvP, and I tear summoners up. SE did a decent (albeit not perfect) job with their rock-paper-scissor setup for Wolves', and the fact that smn has no real stuns or binds (outside of a paltry 5secs with blizzard) more than makes up for their mobility and DOTs.

Also rez.. I wasn't aware that SMN could use rez in combat now. I guess that'll suck when I run into that, but still -- if you die once in wolves you're going to die again.

Tri-Disaster is a 20 second AOE bind.

[almae]

i think they should remove raise/resurrection from pvp completely, i havent tried pvp yet.. is it so bad?:/

[Vampt]

i think they should remove raise/resurrection from pvp completely, i havent tried pvp yet.. is it so bad?:/

Its fun if ur a dps or tank. Healer is rough

[Zorzi]

As long as it doesn't effect PvE. I'm tired of having classes nerfed or outright reworked because they're good in PvP, especially since PvP in this game is a complete afterthought.

The complaints all being about SMN's utility instead of damage worry me. Are there even any non-PvP specific skills that function differently in PvP? You can't just adjust some numbers to fix one person being able to heavy and multiple combat res and have a pet attacking while they run.

[Vampt]

As long as it doesn't effect PvE. I'm tired of having classes nerfed or outright reworked because they're good in PvP, especially since PvP in this game is a complete afterthought.

The complaints all being about SMN's utility instead of damage worry me. Are there even any non-PvP specific skills that function differently in PvP? You can't just adjust some numbers to fix one person being able to heavy and multiple combat res and have a pet attacking while they run.

yeah they have pvp strait up same as pve, the dr might be dif, but the abilities are all the same. It be rough if smn got nerfed more that it jsut did with thunder becasue we are good at pvp

[Zabuza]

yeah they have pvp strait up same as pve, the dr might be dif, but the abilities are all the same. It be rough if smn got nerfed more that it jsut did with thunder becasue we are good at pvp

In the same way that there are skills that can only be used in the wolves den, I see no reason that they can't make certain abilities behave different in the wolves den(Ex. Swiftcast not working with Raise in Wolves Den.)

[Noctrin]

Honestly, all i have done since 2.1 came out is pvp with my guild mates. I'm like 140 matches in and rank 14 (or 13, can't remember). I'm sure there are people way higher than me, but here's what i can tell you without spoon feeding you strategies.

1. PvP skills are a deciding factor, pick them based on your intended composition to fill your weakness.
2. EVERY composition has a weakness, it's just a matter of knowing what it is and exploiting it. We roll most shitty groups, but i'll run into that one group that has a composition that can rape mine, its a 3-4 min match and we can see we'll clearly lose from the beginning, there's simply nothing we can do. It's how it is, can't beat everyone.
3. Teamwork, you will never do anything without. Nothing. I had a drg saying pvp sucks and he's useless, he was solo queuing. I invited him when i had a spot, ran him through the starts and suddenly his job was so much easier when his team was baking him up. You will NEVER 1 vs 1 a competent healer. Ever. As a blm, you won't get a single cast off without people properly covering you. As a healer you'll be pushed into a corner and wrecked by the train without people peeling off and without learning when to cast and when to run.
4. Stop complaining if you run PuGs. Arena is not the place to pug, you will get destroyed no matter what class you play. Unless you get lucky and get paired with a 3 group who are decent.
5. Gear properly, if you have darklight gear don't expect to live long, get the pvp crafted set, it's much better.
6. Have fun, play with different compositions and come up with strategies based on the other team. It's a lot of fun when you outsmart them.

[misterdapi]

Oh man. Haha. I was waiting for the tears to start in this game with PvP.

Flavor of the month class all! It will be something else next month. Haha

[GilbertLapine]

Tri-Disaster is a 20 second AOE bind.

Stun on the GCD. GG.

Let's not forget Spirits Within for some lovely silence.

Never had an issue w/ Tri-Disaster. Pop a purify you're back in the game, the SMN never stood a chance.