Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[Exa_Jyn]

HT [BFB] ID [IR] DE [Leg Sweep] CT [Power Surge]
PH [Jump] TT [SSD] VT [LS] FT [DFD]

Hello my fellow Dragoons

Thx Ayvar for making the awesome thread & thanks Easy for providing the Fractureless rotation With 2.44s GCD I just can't get HT+FT if I use oGCD's, so the above rotation is serving me nicely.

As to the optimal use of oGCD's for opening that combo, I think Power Surge should be used sooner,
as it does not profit from BFB/IR and is thus reducing the uptime of those buffs:

HT [Power Surge] ID [BFB] DE [IR] CT [Leg Sweep]
PH [Jump] TT [SSD] VT [LS] FT [DFD]

Or did I miss something and it's important for DE to crit thanks to IR?

[pompey_dan]

Hello my fellow Dragoons

Thx Ayvar for making the awesome thread & thanks Easy for providing the Fractureless rotation With 2.44s GCD I just can't get HT+FT if I use oGCD's, so the above rotation is serving me nicely.

As to the optimal use of oGCD's for opening that combo, I think Power Surge should be used sooner,
as it does not profit from BFB/IR and is thus reducing the uptime of those buffs:

HT [Power Surge] ID [BFB] DE [IR] CT [Leg Sweep]
PH [Jump] TT [SSD] VT [LS] FT [DFD]

Or did I miss something and it's important for DE to crit thanks to IR?

I agree with your logic but, with your 2.44 GCD and four weapon skills in between life surge and jump it would probably fall off just before you use jump ?

Maybe using BFB > Powersurge > IR would be slightly better.

BFB has 20 sec duration and 80 sec recast, IR 15 sec duration 60 recast so staggering them by 2 GCD (~5 seconds) would mean they will still both stay up for the duration but it will make them line up again better when they come off cooldown, even if only for 5 seconds or 2 GCD lol

Something like this:
HT [BFB] ID [Power Surge] DE [IR] CT [Leg Sweep]
PH [Jump] TT [SSD] VT [LS] FT [DFD]

[Jamison]

So the patch notes are out, and here's what we're looking at for DRG changes:

• Heavy Thrust buff from 10% damage bonus to 15%
• Phlebotomize DoT potency up from 20 to 25
• Chaos Thrust combo potency up from 160 to 200
• Chaos Thrust DoT potency up from 20 to 30
• Power Surge recast down from 90 to 60 seconds
• Animation lock shortened on Jump, Spineshatter Dive and Dragonfire Dive
• Internal Release crit rate down from 20% to 10%

• It's possible Chaos Thrust will reapply even with a lower potency. Patch notes aren't clear on that.
• JP notes list a Full Thrust potency increase from 300 to 330.

[PArcher]

So the patch notes are out, and here's what we're looking at for DRG changes:

• Heavy Thrust buff from 10% damage bonus to 15%
• Phlebotomize DoT potency up from 20 to 25
• Chaos Thrust combo potency up from 160 to 200
• Chaos Thrust DoT potency up from 20 to 30
• (Blood for Blood has a cross-class nerf but our trait negates that)
• Power Surge recast down from 90 to 60 seconds
• Animation lock shortened on Jump, Spineshatter Dive and Dragonfire Dive
• Internal Release crit rate down from 20% to 10%

Honestly, the only thing "bad" here is IR, and with all the buffs its probably not going to matter much (except now my Jump won't crit as much )

CT will become even more important to not clip (and now may be viable in short fights just thanks to that 200 potency), Phem is now even more useful than Fracture, HT gives another 5% damage...

Not going to see any 1500 damage FTs though

[Ayvar]

So the patch notes are out, and here's what we're looking at for DRG changes:

• Heavy Thrust buff from 10% damage bonus to 15%
• Phlebotomize DoT potency up from 20 to 25
• Chaos Thrust combo potency up from 160 to 200
• Chaos Thrust DoT potency up from 20 to 30
• Power Surge recast down from 90 to 60 seconds
• Animation lock shortened on Jump, Spineshatter Dive and Dragonfire Dive
• Internal Release crit rate down from 20% to 10%

The Dragoon changes are all around positive, cept for the loss of 10% from IR.

Any idea of how our buffs compare to monks?

[LordMaitreya]

Full thrust will be 330 potency now too.

http://jp.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...a82f8b92ca6f12

The NA notes are full of typos and omitted information.

[PArcher]

Full thrust will be 330 potency now too.

Source?

I'd love to believe that, but its not in the patch notes at all

EDIT: Unless its supposed to be where that random repeat of the HT buff is...

[rickyguo]

Source?

I'd love to believe that, but its not in the patch notes at all

EDIT: Unless its supposed to be where that random repeat of the HT buff is...

フルスラスト コンボ時の威力が 300 → 330 に引き上げられます。

in japanese patch notes

[Jamison]

CT will become even more important to not clip (and now may be viable in short fights just thanks to that 200 potency), Phem is now even more useful than Fracture, HT gives another 5% damage...

So there's a spot in the notes that say "The following actions will still have their effect re-applied regardless of difference in potency" but then there is nothing actually listed. I'm hopeful this is going to be a general thing for all DoTs and a slight clip of Chaos Thrust will be a massively smaller hit to DPS.

Full thrust will be 330 potency now too.

http://jp.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...a82f8b92ca6f12

The NA notes are full of typos and omitted information.

I remember an interview saying they wanted to up the "main damage combo" so I was surprised not to see it in the notes. Going to edit in a tentative line with this info for now.

[Jamison]

Here's the updated list (also edited on the last page):

• Heavy Thrust buff from 10% damage bonus to 15%
• Phlebotomize DoT potency up from 20 to 25
• Chaos Thrust combo potency up from 160 to 200
• Chaos Thrust DoT potency up from 20 to 30
• Power Surge recast down from 90 to 60 seconds
• Animation lock shortened on Jump, Spineshatter Dive and Dragonfire Dive
• Internal Release crit rate down from 20% to 10%

• It's possible Chaos Thrust will reapply even with a lower potency. Patch notes aren't clear on that.
• JP notes list a Full Thrust potency increase from 300 to 330.