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    Quote Originally Posted by ReplicaX View Post
    No where in any ARR documentation does it state Bard is a support role. All documentation regarding Bard in ARR assigns it as a DPS Role.

    This isn't 1.0 and it is different from other games in the FF series. Until SE announces and changes Bard's Role, it is a DPS Job. The Dev Team refers to it as a DPS Role and have always discussed its Utility and not support.
    BOOHOO seriously? BRD is a SUPPORT job PERIOD. It is not dps it is support like it or not it always has been a support job. You and others dont like that than thats too bad. It is you the players who have turned it into a dps job not SE. If the jopb was not intented as support than your songs would not fit the support role but they do. You chose your job to play you made the wrong choice it seems, if you want dps we have mnk blm and drg, pick your poison but brd isnt in the dps jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxthunder View Post
    BOOHOO seriously? BRD is a SUPPORT job PERIOD. It is not dps it is support like it or not it always has been a support job. You and others dont like that than thats too bad. It is you the players who have turned it into a dps job not SE. If the jopb was not intented as support than your songs would not fit the support role but they do. You chose your job to play you made the wrong choice it seems, if you want dps we have mnk blm and drg, pick your poison but brd isnt in the dps jobs.
    That's odd. . .I seem to remember getting long DPS queues, and taking a DPS slot. . .

    You're sure I'm not a DPS? The game seems convinced that I am.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    That's odd. . .I seem to remember getting long DPS queues, and taking a DPS slot. . .

    You're sure I'm not a DPS? The game seems convinced that I am.
    Makes no difference he messed up and needs to fix his mistake. Just because you can dosent mean it is correct. Yoshi needs to look at more of his own companies series and work off that but instead he tries to hard to take from other games. His design choice is flawed. If players want a solo game there are plenty of games that can fill that role. This is a MMO and it needs more party based mechanics than we currently have. What they did to brd was lazy design it was rushed and seems very little though was put into it.
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    Last edited by Maxthunder; 12-13-2013 at 09:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxthunder View Post
    Makes no difference he messed up and needs to fix his mistake.
    That's cool. Here's a thought: How about, until he "fixes his mistake," they not turn us into a glorified safety net?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxthunder View Post
    BOOHOO seriously? BRD is a SUPPORT job PERIOD.
    lmfao. I don't care what you think it should be. I've played the job since its release in 1.2x and played it to how it was designed then tossing cures, stoneskin, raising members in battle, and songs to help my party.

    There are 3 Roles in ARR. DPS, Tank, Healer. Sorry, SE changed ARR to try to appeal to a broader base and BRD was changed also. CNJ Cross-Class is gone. You keep going against the current state of the game saying BRD is support, songs are the priority for the party, but in a fight it takes up very very little of our time. Where damage dealing takes up the large majority.

    You want the 1.23 BRD, refuse to accept the changes made, and on top of it blame the community when the Dev Team redesigned it this way. I've moved on and adapted to change and will if the job is completely overhauled in the future for a different role.
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    Last edited by ReplicaX; 12-13-2013 at 10:22 PM.

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    [QUOTE=ReplicaX;1654983] snip

    They rushed 2.0 and it shows, they didnt take the time to think things thru. A lot of players look at brd as support and that is what it is. It is also the easiest class to dps on so we also know why others are complaining about loseing your dps, but thats not an issue. Learn to play a real dps and not something that is suppose to be a support class, but you and others dont want to play support that is what it comes down to. This has nothing to do w attracting broad audience, it is a about others just wanting easy street with little to no effort and that fits into what brd dose best. At least if they make it into what it should be players will actually have to play the job properly, even know we have players that cant even use the job properly and it is by far the easiest in the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitkat View Post
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    Thank you for a more organized approach with the current issues and state of play in the game with BRD. All they are doing is confusing ppl more and more with this new statement. You released provisional War info in testing, showing BRD provisional changes would have helped clarify some direction SE and provided more input.
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    Last edited by ReplicaX; 12-15-2013 at 01:08 AM.

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    Regardless of what you or I want they will do whatever, the fact is everyone I have spoke too would like brd to do its support role, and no we cant go by the number of likes on this forums as the majority. Change is one thing but we do need support jobs like it or not and brd is a support job like it or not. Why do you think you have songs to cast? Why is the community wants everything to be dps? Why isit the easiest job in the game is brd? That answer is because you dont have to think you just press buttons and you can do it in your sleep or with your eyes closed. Even now we use brd as support for for all the high level fights, it dose help if players will actually use them.

    Why not try a real dps job that isnt as easy you will have a lot more fun than just running around with your head cut off pressing buttons?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxthunder View Post
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    You can make all the assumptions you like. I'm not.
    • I am actively playing and gearing my BRD/PLD/DRG in coil each week and go the role I'm needed.
    • I play jobs I enjoy, regardless of difficulty.
    • I am in no rush getting all 9 jobs to 50.
    • Current coil lockouts/myth caps restrict ppl from gearing all 9 jobs effectively.
    • Focusing on my 3 jobs with the current state of the game makes more sense.

    People's opinions are opinions. If it effects the game, I've already stated numerous times. Whatever direction Bard goes, I will go.

    Bard is currently a DPS that can apply one song at a time.

    Nothing stat/gear wise for BRD effects those songs but Piety (MP = Length of Song) and there is zero non-slotted endgame gear for Bard with Piety. Battle Voice is an ability, not a stat. Bard is all DPS focused gear.

    I am done arguing with someone that thinks the Job should be this, but it is infact nothing like it. Argue with the Devs.
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    Last edited by ReplicaX; 12-14-2013 at 02:38 AM.

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