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  1. #271
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    Warlyx Arada
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    change relic+1 from +1 dmg to +2 dmg >.>, why bards are the only 1 with +1 while others enjoy+2?

    change heavy shot : 1.5s casting time , and boost dmg

    playing a bard it feels like using a pillow....i prefer losing mobility and gaining dmg. Even if sometimes means that im losing dps to avoid aoes....but while im not avoiding anything (nearly 90% of boss battles ) i will be dpsing harder.

    or give me a stance like healers (cleric stance)

    Ranger stance : heavy shot/ straight shot now have a 1.5s casting time ,dmg of the brd is boosted by 25% , unable to cast songs (or only able to cast requiem ?)

    no need to add ranger :P
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  2. #272
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    Kazari Uiharu
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    I dont know, I find the bard to be an excellent support. SE made a great class that has the utility you need in a group. the downside is less damage. however you play a bigger role then just a DPS and the versatility more then makes up for you being a little weaker in DPS. Things like weapon adjustment and changes to mechanics are a bit much. SE's entire goal is to keep the Bard how it is. The bard is actually a perfect example of Support in an MMO, utility at a cost of some DPS, but not stuck just playing support. no matter what they change to cross class skills, every party still wants a bard, they bring a lot to the table.
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    “Even the finest sword plunged into salt water will eventually rust.”
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  3. #273
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReplicaX View Post
    No where in any ARR documentation does it state Bard is a support role. All documentation regarding Bard in ARR assigns it as a DPS Role.

    This isn't 1.0 and it is different from other games in the FF series. Until SE announces and changes Bard's Role, it is a DPS Job. The Dev Team refers to it as a DPS Role and have always discussed its Utility and not support.
    BOOHOO seriously? BRD is a SUPPORT job PERIOD. It is not dps it is support like it or not it always has been a support job. You and others dont like that than thats too bad. It is you the players who have turned it into a dps job not SE. If the jopb was not intented as support than your songs would not fit the support role but they do. You chose your job to play you made the wrong choice it seems, if you want dps we have mnk blm and drg, pick your poison but brd isnt in the dps jobs.
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  4. #274
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    Quote Originally Posted by meJojo View Post
    Yeah no. Until they split up Archer into Bard and Hunter/Ranger Bard should stay in their DPS role.
    NO they should not. BRD is support use it like one instead of neglecting the party with no buffs. If you wanna face roll mobs use drg blm or mnk period. I hope they give brd the off class on cnj and thats gonna make everyone who chose brd cry. SE needs to make brd rely on its songs instead of what players use it for currently.
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  5. #275
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    Wolfhammer's Avatar
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    Danira Sunspear
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    Moogle
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Greetings, everyone!

    Based on fan translations of the interview Famitsu held with Yoshi-P recently, there seems to be a misconception about what was said regarding bard adjustments in 2.1. Contrary to the rumor that an ability would be taken away from bard and moved to a different job, bard will not be losing a main ability.

    This confusion appears to stem from Yoshi-P comparing party formations to a puzzle and the jobs being the puzzle pieces. The goal for balancing the game is to make sure that no single job could complete the puzzle alone, and he feels that bard was given too many pieces of the puzzle.
    Well if Bards have too many pieces of the puzzle, then you aim to take away a piece or pieces. So what piece(s) are you taking please?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phai View Post
    Brd is FotM due to casual players that just copy a gimped setup for coil.
    But please explain ur statment, since Yoshi said, and made a game that has no room for support role.
    I dont need to explain it is Yoshi who needs to explain his position. You dont take a job that is support as in all of the FF series and just throw it into the dps classification. The issue at had is Yoshi is coping other games way to much and not looking at the FF series history as what each job is classified as or dose. Brd is SUPPORT, always has been and always should be. The fact is players want the ranged classes to be dps and nothing else because they dont have to worry about anything other than running around and pressing buttons.
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  7. #277
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxthunder View Post
    NO they should not. BRD is support use it like one instead of neglecting the party with no buffs. If you wanna face roll mobs use drg blm or mnk period. I hope they give brd the off class on cnj and thats gonna make everyone who chose brd cry. SE needs to make brd rely on its songs instead of what players use it for currently.
    If thats the case then I'd like some songs that are actually needed and a wider variety... Its rare I play a song since my end game groups seem to get along fine without them. Makes me feel warm n fuzzy when one is actually required or asked for its so rare.
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  8. #278
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    Aria Placida
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxthunder View Post
    BOOHOO seriously? BRD is a SUPPORT job PERIOD. It is not dps it is support like it or not it always has been a support job. You and others dont like that than thats too bad. It is you the players who have turned it into a dps job not SE. If the jopb was not intented as support than your songs would not fit the support role but they do. You chose your job to play you made the wrong choice it seems, if you want dps we have mnk blm and drg, pick your poison but brd isnt in the dps jobs.
    That's odd. . .I seem to remember getting long DPS queues, and taking a DPS slot. . .

    You're sure I'm not a DPS? The game seems convinced that I am.
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  9. #279
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfhammer View Post
    If thats the case then I'd like some songs that are actually needed and a wider variety... Its rare I play a song since my end game groups seem to get along fine without them. Makes me feel warm n fuzzy when one is actually required or asked for its so rare.
    Thats an issue with Yoshi and his design. He needs to re-think his design. Support jobs are relevant yet he continue's to ignore this, not to mention due to the solo ability it takes away from group mechanics and helping the group.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    That's odd. . .I seem to remember getting long DPS queues, and taking a DPS slot. . .

    You're sure I'm not a DPS? The game seems convinced that I am.
    Makes no difference he messed up and needs to fix his mistake. Just because you can dosent mean it is correct. Yoshi needs to look at more of his own companies series and work off that but instead he tries to hard to take from other games. His design choice is flawed. If players want a solo game there are plenty of games that can fill that role. This is a MMO and it needs more party based mechanics than we currently have. What they did to brd was lazy design it was rushed and seems very little though was put into it.
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    Last edited by Maxthunder; 12-13-2013 at 09:27 PM.

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